Two thoughts: our ‘98 team went 10-1 and got no bowl game. I know it’s been mentioned before, but that’s insane as that team would have been a top 40-50 team. We beat UNC that year when they were ranked.
Also Hendrix is the one guy I’d think would be in very high records had his team not stunk and had he been around more than a short time. We only won two games that first year, but…we lost 5 games by a TD or less and oddly enough almost beat UC.
Steve Sanna and Sherman Smith were almost like one person, the way they were used. If that were the case, they would be right up there with Ben. 
Plus again it always comes back to comparing players in different generations. Very difficult to do.
Thought you knew some ball smh
How about this—I think Andrew Hendrix is probably a better QB than Brett.
Measuring these guys by team wins is silly.
I am a class of '90 alum but I don’t have a clear enough memory of Terry Morris to include him in my list.
I think both Dysert and Hendrix did phenomenal jobs in very difficult circumstances.
I think that I was referring to Zac hitting the portal as soon as he heard Don’t speak due to him being the worst. Betts has nothing to do with that.
Career stats is a poor comparison. When we had so many great teams in the 50’s, 60’,s and 70’,s we had freshmen teams so you only played 3 seasons and they were 10 game seasons. You had to win a MAC championship to have any chance at a bowl game…Larry Fortner and Terry Morris should be getting more love. I would put Ben is a class all by himself, nobody else comparable. Sherman Smith is a clear number 2 in my mind. In his 3 years as QB, I don’t think he was ever stopped in a 3rd or 4th down and 1 situation. He was 6-5 and 230 and fast in an era where big defensive linemen were in the 220 pound range. He was bigger than all but one of our defenders when he played.
After that only Dysert and Betts were good enough to have received NFL paychecks for a few years.
Great! I will rescind your subscription to Sackman’s Ball Knowers Weekly.
Hendrix was a warrior. Ricketts was very good, too.
Glad you mentioned Ricketts.
That’s how far back I go, and he was very solid. Different game then but I’d put him up against Betts, Bath, Ragland, Gabbert, et al
Sherman “Tank” Smith was big and fast and the ole leftie was a decent thrower.
These clips are amazingly from 50 years ago.
Eddie—what a fab clip! He was a good guy on top of being a great QB. Actually snapped to him a center when, for some unknown reason, he would come and run scout squad in summer practices. He played in an era where 20 passes in a game would have been a silly amount so no gaudy numbers other than wins. Went on to a nice career at Seattle when they were a new franchise. Coached Eddie George as a Tennessee Titan in the Super Bowl.
Guys like that make it hard to compare eras that’s for sure. What’s and extra 1000 yards passing compared to beating Georgia or South Carolina? Now we’re passing 30-40 times a game and anyone with a winning record gets in a bowl game. Different worlds.
Indeed. He was a special athlete. 6-4 225 QB in the mid 70s. That would probably equate to about 6-6 235/240 now…Or bigger.
He doesn’t get the credit he deserves because he was only here one season and the team was bad, but Hendrix is clearly ahead of everyone at least post-Dysert.
Our roster that season was Treadwell’s people and the few guys Chuck was able to scrounge up in the couple months after he was hired. We had no offensive line, no running backs, and like one good receiver. Our defense that year averaged 36 points per game allowed against FBS opponents not employing Don Treadwell.
Despite the total lack of support, he threw for over 3200 yards (neither Gabbert or Ragland ever hit 3000), led the team in rushing by a mile with over 600 yards (only Aveon Smith has hit that mark), and had 29 total TDs (more than Gabbert or Ragland ever had).
He was somehow good enough to keep us in basically every game we played. We only lost three games that year by more than 10 points. 13-1 Marshall (which was a one possession game in the fourth quarter), at Michigan (which was a one possession game in the fourth quarter), and WMU (where he was knocked out with an injury in the first half).
Ben is and in all likelihood will always be Numbeo Uno in Miami FB history.
My hope is that Numbers two and three will graduate from Miami in 2027, '28, '29 and/or '30.
The problem I have with that schedule is the fact that I am 74. I don’t make plans that far ahead. However, I have every intention of watching us play in all those years.
Whether he’s the best Miami QB since Ben is debatable, but he is absolutely my favorite since Ben.
We will almost certainly never have another QB who is our (when healthy) #1 starter for 6 years. That alone will always give him a special place in Miami lore.
Eddie! What a great montage of Sherm Smith highlights. The dude could run with power and speed. He had this quick snap release and as I mentioned earlier in the thread, he threw bullets. The only negative is that he didn’t have have the best touch for throwing over and under mid range coverage as he threw most everything on a line.
But of course he was primarily a runner, and we ran the option. It was a thing of beauty when you had guys like Sherm, Rob Carpenter, and Randy Walker in your back field. I agree w Dick that Sherm has to be way up there …top 3 for sure. He could do it all, and won 2 league titles and two bowl games against Georgia and South Carolina.
No love for Larry Fortner?
WARNING: AI ahead
Todd Rollins #2! Thanks AI!
