The Reds

Kwan is under team control for like 3 more years. He has won a Gold Glove every year in the majors and he is really outstanding in the clutch, I think hit over .400 from the 8th inning on. He has been an All Star 2 years in a row and actually drove in the tieing run with 2 outs late in the game. Of all the guys still being discussed, he is the most valueable piece remaining. The Guardians do not think they can afford to keep him once he gets to Free agency go they are looking to get a haul for him now. He would be worth it, IMO.

So right now the Reds are 3 games behind the Padres for the final wild card spot and the Padres are 3 games behind the Dodgers for first place in the division. Giants and Cardinals have given up and are sellers and have kind of dropped out of contentions. If anybody else makes a charge it would probably be the Marlins, who have been very good for a month or more now.

So the Padres are the team we have to pass and they just pulled a huge deal getting closer Mason Miller and starting pitcher JP Sears from Oakland. They are also very likely now to trade closer Robert Suarez and/or SP Dillon Cease today Sears and Miller would then replace them. Both those guys have some teams control years remaining and lower salaries which are important issues for San Diego. They are also trying to pick up a LF yet and are interested in Kwan, as are the Dodgers.

Burns rightly so is on a total pitch count. Last thing the Reds need to do is exceed that or burn him up. Plus they don’t want to affect his confidence. Greene is pitching now in rehab. When he returns he replaces Burns. I stand with my statement as to what I would do with Martinez. Not the first time you and I disagree on something . As for Kwan I am not giving up the three prospects I mentioned. If they can get him for others fine. An honest evaluation has to be made by the Reds in light of the moves made by the Padres, Phillies, Mets and Cubs how likely is it we can get a wildcard spot. And then determine how much of the future to mortgage. I like the moves so far because they improve the team but not at the expense of the future. Maybe a more conservative move like Harrison Bader would be an option. I still like Taylor Ward for the right price. Or Mike Tuchman from the White Sox. All more conservative options than Kwan but could provide immediate value.

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Cards players now reportedly in play: Super utility man Brendan Donovan, outfielder Lars Nootbaar, and first baseman/outfielder Alec Burleson are all on the table.

Not necessary. Just saw reports they are likely keeping both. Aj Preller is big on the “super bullpen”

I’d love to see him traded outside the AL Central because every time I look up he’s like 3 for 5 with two RBIs against the Tigers. Excellent player who has just killed Detroit pitching for the last couple of years.

Bader to the Phillies for two not highly regarded prospects.

I miss the professional baseball of my youth. When did trade deadline day become such a spectacle? MLB needs a salary cap.

Now get off my lawn.

Reds get Miquel Andujar from the A’s near end of day. Reds gave up 22nd ranked prospect Kenya Huggins a pitcher who missed the better part of two years with Tommy John surgery. So I would say a good trade for the Reds. Pirates flipped Taylor Rodgers whom they got from the Reds to the Cubs!

I’m not sure the Orioles have any players left!!

One thing I haven’t heard discussed much after this transfer portal like MLB deadline is remaining strength of schedule. For instance if you have the Twins on your schedule you have to be dancing. 11 players gone. Buxton has to be sitting there in the locker room saying “where’s my team?” So strength of schedule for teams could now be drastically altered.

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And he is on the DL.

I hope you didn’t turn this game off after the Braves broke a 3-3 tie with 8 in the top of the 8.

There’s definitely a “yes I’m not a Pirate anymore!” boost for a lot of guys lol.

Sell the team Bob.

Reds fans also wholeheartedly support the phrase “Sell the team Bob”.

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Well pretty much across the board, the consensus is the Padres, Mets, Phillies, all got significantly better. Teams the Reds will compete with for a wild card bid. Cubs and Brewers pretty much did nothing. The Reds by both ESPN and Bleacher Report have been thrown in the “losers” bracket in the trade lineline. Why? Because they didn’t spend on Suarez. While he didn’t go for the “ton” national pundits were tweeting he would go for, the return was still significant. The Reds made some incremental moves that made the team a little better without sacrificing any pieces for the future and have team control over Hayes and Andujar for at least the next couple year. I am ok with that. I don’t think the Reds were losers, although I wish they would have brought in some sort of a more impact bat than Andjuar. I’m still shocked Leo Devries was moved. That 18 year old is a stud.

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There are two types of MLB owners in 2025, those trying to win and those trying to make money. If you’re not in the Top 10ish in the list below, your team is probably in the second group.

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Reds are 8th from the bottom in total payroll/tax. 9th from the bottom in revenue. So I guess about right!

My first full season in the Mariners clubhouse - 1983 - the team payroll was just over $2 million.

Cheap bastards!:grinning:

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Richie Zisk was making $250 of that as a DH. Dan O’Brian had signed him - coming over from Pittsburgh as a FA - to a four year guaranteed contract. Richie had bad knees. When the league certified him as physically unable to perform during year two, his career was over and owner George Argyros was on the hook for the last $500 K. George fired Dan for making that deal.

Unimaginable in today’s market! The Major League minimum in 1983 was about $38k.