But how do you know Joe decided not to leave on his own? Maybe he was told he wasn’t top three this year but the staff said “we want you here as it will be your chance soon.” How are you certain he was forced out? Ps, he very well could have been but unless he’s tweeting that or the like, it’s hard to know.
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I have a hunch he might have let the coaches know he was disappointed they brought in someone to play ahead of him before spring practice. That’s possibly why he didn’t get any reps in March and April. If his lack of reps was truly based on a minor injury alone, I was predicting he’d stay - at least through fall.
The transfer portal has now given coaches two ways to recruit over the kids they already have on their rosters. They don’t really have to take a kid into a room, get ugly and ream him out to send the message that a player has no future with them.
And kids aren’t stupid. They can fairly quickly tell whether there’s a path forward for them or not.
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If a kid wants to sulk and complain to the coaches that they brought in another kid to compete at his position, then imo that’s more of an indictment on the kid than the coaches. Any good coaching staff is going to continually recruit to find the best 22 players to put on the field. He could have chosen to stay and compete for the job once it became available. Instead, he’s taking his ball and going home. Sorry if he got his feelings hurt, but this is college football. Nothing is owed to these kids.
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You may be right here. I’m only asking the questions because (to me) it seems like it’s the same as it’s ever been. Save for the fact that smaller D1 teams are now the proving ground for bigger D1 teams. When Joe was recruited he probably was told he had a chance to start. But the landscape changes every day. Had Brett left and Aveon not stepped up, there’s a chance he might have gotten in. Also, the high school hype is irrelevant to me as I recall when Billy Bahl had it, Jackson Williamson did as well and so too did AJ Meyer. There are loads of great high school players in every program. Some of them make it through and some of them never do.
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That’s precisely what they should understand before signing the LOI. The kind of four-year commitment CM showed to Gus after he signed him is pretty rare in college football. That’s probably why there are thousands of kids who were told they were “special” in the portal each cycle. If I were a kid thinking about signing an LOI - and actually playing was of upmost importance - id go someplace where I was obviously superior to the talent they had on hand and be content with being a big fish in a small pond - even if that means going to a lower division or a traditionally underachieving program. Otherwise, he’s just buying the proverbial pig in a poke.
If a kid just wants to be part of a program, work his butt off with no guarantees and get a superlative education I’d shoot for the moon - Rice, Stanford, Ivys, UVA or UNC, UCLA or hey why not Miami. If you play on scout team or ST for four years and get some financial aid, then take the photo with your folks on Senior Day, frame your favorite team photo and ride off with a degree.
Believing in the promises coaches make to them during the recruitment process is what gets kids in trouble.
Gus played pre NIL and also the program was rock bottom. It is likely he never had the same competition that room has today because no one good was coming here until Chuck got us to be respectable. (Take that word as you will) but the talent on a 2-8 team and a 6-6 one is different.
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There is no question the talent level is better now than what Treadwell was bringing in. It’s the results that are a bit underwhelming at this stage.
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I was there this weekend. I stood next to a group of the players dads. I talked to them the entire time. I don’t know names, one was definitely a QBs dad but who’s I don’t know.,Humphreys had surgery in March on his right pinky and had missed all of spring practice and had not been cleared to practice as of Saturday. Hesson, according to this guy, got no live reps in spring practice. Neither of those two got a chance to compete. He said Kopp was guaranteed no deeper than 3rd on depth chart. True? I have no clue. However, based on what I saw it lines up. Hesson was head and shoulders better than Kopp. My guess is Humphreys Hesson were “Koehler “ guys and CM wanted something different. Hopefully CM is correct.
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If Hesson got no reps, I am sorry, that is wrong. Should have been given some reps.
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I wonder if Humphreys now follows Zolman to Minny…
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Humphreys and Hesson both had a chance to prove themselves last fall. Remember Gabbert came in as a true freshman and won the job in one month. As has been said on here before just because a kid is a stud in HS does not mean they will be a good college player. QBs especially may excel in HS but that does not mean they will pick up the college game-they are getting closer but college ball is different the HS ball. They have to understand the game better in college, they just cant sling it around like they did in HS. Yes Humphreys has talent but who knows he may not have picked up Miami’s offense and he may go somewhere and it all clicks. Good kid, best of luck to him in the future.
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Not sure you can prove yourself standing on a practice sideline but OK. Gabbert’s prime competition was Jackson Williamson who ended up being the poster child for Chase Young’s draft films, transferred to D2 Newberry and couldn’t crack the starting lineup down there.
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If you are talking about spring he had surgery and could not practice, but if you are talking about last fall if he stood on the sideline that shows that maybe he wasn’t good enough. Most people on here want to bash Aveon as a QB, but if Hesson and Humphreys didn’t beat him out that should tell you something
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Gabberts prime competitor was AJ Mayer not Jackson Williamson
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I think Jackson was #2 on the depth chart when Brett started his freshman year. He came off the bench to replace Brett when Brett got dinged at Ohio State.
AJ transferred to Arkansas State and hasn’t played much at all down there. Brett has been head and shoulders better than any QB on our roster during his time at Miami.
This seems like an inordinate freakout over a 5th string QB.
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I think calling the QB room a hot mess is a bad take. We have a 5th year starting QB who has won a MAC championship and a 4th year QB who is 5 and 4 as a starter. We also have a 3rd year QB who has transferred in from Colorado. Behind them we had two inexperienced younger guys who many think have good skills. That is not a hot mess, that is exactly what you want. Humphries transferring bothers me not at all, he was unlikely to be a factor for the next couple of years. That is the reality of the transfer portal. He needs to go where he can get on the field sooner ( remember he played at a rural small school in Kentucky in high school and needs some game experience against stronger competition, transferring to the right school will give him a chance to develop).
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I think much of that is how exuberant the coaching staff and this board were to have signed him a couple of years ago.
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Starter that is injury prone. Backup that can’t effectively pass the ball. 3rd string guy that’s is on his 3rd team in 3 years with one start that came because starter was injured and back up refused to play in last game because he was transferring. 4th string guy that probably should be #2 then 3 walk ons with another walk on coming in the fall. I stand by my comment.
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Dick I do agree with the rest of your post. The only correction is that looks like Humphreys played in 6A which is the largest class in KY. I think your right that these kids need to play to develop and maybe a smaller school that offers that is the way to go? Who knows it’s all speculation. Next topic, I think we’ve worn this one out.
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