Miami to raze Williams, Wells and Joyner

Don’t have the details, but Williams, Wells and Joyner are going to be demo’d as part of a $7M sustainability initiative.

Hmmmm. Sounds like a really good place to put a basketball arena.

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In fact, wasn’t this the alternative site they considered? What is the plan for the space if they aren’t going to build an arena there?

It was the alternative site, and one that many preferred.

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Looking at Google Maps, we’ll still have Bonham House, Hanna House, and Phillips Hall bounding the area so it’s very tight for an arena (let alone hotel/conference center). Given what we know about the project that would surprise me, seems more likely that they’re clearing the way for
more modern buildings like when they demolished Withrow and Swing.

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This site only works if Phillips is torn down

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I’d prefer Miami sets the arena up here instead of Cook Field. It makes sense from an existing infrastructure standpoint (sewer, power, road and parking), also consolidates athletic venues near each other. We’ll see.

Be interesting to see what they will do with losing 150 or so dorm room spaces …

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This site was a finalist and did not include tearing down Phillips. Part of it’s appeal was that these three buildings were already slated to be torn down regardless if the arena went there or not so nothing would be displaced by the arena. The downside was no hotel/conference center and ultimately that’s why they chose the Cook Field site.
I think they have already taken Wells offline as a dorm.

NickSkin (and Howard Johnson) is right. Phillips is like the old Natatorium when it was on Talawanda. It’s now Billings and I think it runs water

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Reminds me of when they had a contest to name the new ice arena. One wag suggested “Chillings Skateatorium.”

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New geothermal wells being installed in front of Millett. Thomson Hall was also demolished to make space for new solar panels.

I finally had time to read this whole article and Google Map my way around Oxford. Holy cow! This is extensive!

And the BCRTA program and mapping is so much easier to read than the old Miami metro. But I think I only used the MM once or twice. But I knew a lot of people who had every stop memorized. Just how old the busses were verses what they ride in today

It’s a shame they don’t put those solar panels on the roofs of the buildings……

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I believe there are some positives to ground mount but they are all financial. Cost to install, cost to maintain, energy output, no possible roof damage.

The downside is obvious as you have stated.

Huge windmills and acres of solar panels are part and parcel of the biggest scam in American History.

All it would have taken is for all new building construction to include solar panels or small windmills that don’t, ironically, require fossil fuels to operate

Rooftop solar costs about 2.5x what a ground-mount project does – roughly $2.50/watt versus less than a dollar for utility scale these days. It’s also typically noneconomic to do a commercial rooftop project (like a dorm or classroom building) off cycle from when the flat roof has to be replaced in the ordinary course.

Onshore utility scale wind is also less than a buck. Those costs can go up some if you bundle the project with energy storage instead of grid management to deal with intermittency, but both wind and solar at scale tend to be cheaper than natural gas as the next marginal source of generation within a particular PUC jurisdiction.

Just for fun, I like the middle ground project of mounted solar on taller supports over parking lots. It’s a good doubling up on use of space, gives you more generating capacity than rooftops, and provides employees or customers with covered parking. IKEA has done a bunch of those. I’m not sure if you’ve seen that near you.

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Parking lot solar is effectively mandatory for new government building construction in California. (It’s not technically required, but there are construction grants inaccessible if you don’t do it.) It’s especially notable with schools, as they tend to be replaced more often than other government offices.

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