Finn is no longer on the team

Payments can not be tied to any type of on field performance.

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Is “literally just not quitting the team” considered “on field performance”.

This is ridiculous. Pure definition of QUITTER right there. WOW

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I’m not the moderator any more (thank God), but here goes anyway:

This is baffling, disappointing news and probably a new test case for NIL gone wrong. We’re all well within our rights to be upset about it and for those of you who donate to NIL to ask if your money was well spent. However, some of the comments above hinting at or alleging anti-competitive or even criminal behavior from a student-athlete whom we all welcomed last summer and as best I can tell remains a Miami student this afternoon are uncalled for. I hope some of you will choose to edit those off-the-cuff remarks and exhibit a modicum of grace here.

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It should at least be structured so that the NIL is spread out in installments and you forfeit future installments if you leave the team for reasons unrelated to on-field performance.

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Only thing we can do to right the ship is to get Rashad Amos back. I can’t imagine he wouldn’t stay. Write the NIL check!

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Does Aveon have any eligibility left?

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In these times and from what we have seen around the sports world, I think people have the right to question the motives. However, I don’t think a “criminal” situation is the case, otherwise Finn could have easily overthrown that 4th down TD against Ohio, but something very “fishy” is going on here. Could be as simple as an agent saying to move on with the chance of a MAC title game now out the window. Was he really sick this week - who knows??

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I no longer draft contracts but to me, yes, you could include a “termination” or “buyout” clause that is not tied to performance. Assuming there was a contract for whatever money Miami paid him, they could have included language on penalties for failing to live up to certain obligations in the contract, like not finishing the season on the team. This would have to be very carefully drafted. Basic tenet of contract law is contract ambiguities are held against the drafter.

I believe YanksAlex drafts contracts so he might be the best to address this.

Big assumption

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He is not a NFL prospect or even CFL

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With Miami athletics, yes, that is a big assumption!

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Not just Miami atheltics

I used to try and refrain from harshly criticizing student athletes. I still keep it focused to critiquing their play.

BUT…we’ve crossed that Rubicon with NIL. This is a 24 year old grown man, who was paid six figures (anyone know the exact amount?), some of which was money from checks I wrote to Red Brick Legacy. I don’t want to overstate my contribution size. I’m not a significant part of that. I’m not a big dick in the Miami NIL world. But its not nothing I gave either.

And if you are asking fans to personally write checks that go into that player’s pocket, there is a different level of accountability, both from Miami AND Mr. Finn, than the old world of college sports we grew up on. I do think either Miami through Chuck or RBL through Decker owes us more then and I quote “he’s an awesome young man [who’s] going to train and get ready for the next level”. There is also a different level of expectation on the player, Finn, himself. If he just quit on the team, he took my money, and the money of friends and people I know (Miami athletics is tight knit) and ran off and quit. He didn’t legally steal from us, but morally…

It definitely does influence my thoughts on NIL and contributing in the future.

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Here is all I will add in defense of some of that speculation.

  1. Miami did not announce that Finn was out until about an hour before kick. There was a noticeable shift in betting odds in the days prior to the game in favor of Toledo.
  2. One person on X - a gambling account with 20 followers - knew definitively that DeQuan was out at 10:50 AM on Wednesday. https://x.com/SlipTalkHQ/status/1988635567915937962
  3. The spread moved another 2-2.5 points from the time of this tweet until the announcement that DQ was out. This movement didn’t happen because some guy tweeted to his 20 followers. It happened because either (i) people thought, all things being equal, Toledo should’ve been a near TD favorite in Oxford, or (ii) a lot of people with money-making intentions knew DQ wasn’t playing with a whole lot of lead time.
  4. People I know close to the team, although admittedly not “inside” the team, seemed pretty surprised DQ didn’t suit up given the severity, or lack thereof, of his malady. And those people weren’t shy about expressing those opinions on Wednesday night.

None of this is dispositive proof that the player did something shady. In fact, I don’t think he did. Occam’s razor would suggest we’ve just got a bad leak within the program. But its a sketchy ass look nonetheless. And the people who are claiming fire are not doing so in the absence of smoke clouds.

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Finn was frustrating as hell to watch anyways. That said, if Chuck really marches Hesson out there over Gotkowski, I’ll lose it. Hesson was worse than the kid Noah Wezensky in 2016 who also quit mid season

Thanks. That’s good, nuanced context that asks the right questions without pointing fingers on matters about which we currently know little. I appreciate it.

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But it’s not. At all. Sure we need to put out the dumpster fire first but us, OU, and Toledo all winning out isn’t far fetched all.

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I guess seven years is too recent for familiarity with the high-character nature of Baylor athletics under Dave Bliss and Art Briles.

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