Total expenses are about 39.1 million, student fees cover 17.6 million, and there’s another 8.4 million in direct/indirect institutional support. There’s also some nuance to how the specific numbers should be considered (e.g. 12 million in scholarships doesn’t really cost 12 million to the university, but it does cost something), but overall it’s a pretty significant loss.
Don’t disagree with your overall point, just some context on that.
I wish we could get some sort of in depth poll as to why students (specifically the ones who are sports fans) don’t show up to the games. If we knew the reasons then maybe it would be a lot easier to adapt
Thank you for the numbers. Worse than I originally thought, but if anything it reinforces some of what I said. Money is tight, we always have to pick 2-3 games for basketball and a couple for football to go all out for the community because that’s what we can afford after considering all of the non gameday expenses in the year as well
What I’ve been saying. Need a survey and focus groups done on campus. How can you solve a problem without knowing the root issues? MKT 101: research is important
A couple years ago I am pretty sure they announced that the student ticket number for the UC game was around 2,600. So I believe that is sort of the peak expectation for student attendance at basketball in this decade/structure
Multiply that with hockey. I’d love to bring my boys up from Ross on a more regular basis to hockey games especially, but its an awfully pricey night.
Exactly. This is why families pay for streaming services. So they’re not paying almost $100 to take a family to see a movie. And I’m talking kids, not adults who are going to see Bob Marley. That’s the untapped market that Miami needs to focus on. Kids and kids priced tickets.
@DICK made a perfect point about discounts on movies. In downtown Miamisburg, there’s a historic movie theatre called The Plaza. Nonprofit group and run by volunteers. When a kids movie comes out and The Plaza gets it, they get slammed with families. For instance, last year a dad showed up with 6 kids. He paid $35 for all of them, including himself, to get in and see “Mario Brothers”. He told the people at the front “This is the only way we can make this happen, you guys. The $5 tickets at all times for everyone are a lifesaver!” Concessions are priced cheap too and they pop their own popcorn right in front of you. And the theatre is all digital projection with a brand new sound system that rivals the big theatres. And it’s all from donations.
That’s the situation a lot of families with kids are going through today. They want to take their kids out but have mortgages, car payments, clothing, food, etc. Parents want to take their kids out but not go broke. Make Miami be that island of common sense ticket prices. It’s a lot more fun with kids screaming and yelling and cheering for Miami.
We have a finite number of people in the “greater Oxford” area who are going to come to games. We have a “finite” number of students who will come. For whatever reason, those students aren’t coming. I don’t know why. Maybe some don’t like sports. I don’t know the answer but it seems to me with 16,000 students on campus we should be able to get more than a few hundred to attend games. By the way, what is the student size of Tallawanda High? Do we do any promotions to get them to the games?
Glad to be of service.
Is Millett general admission or reserved these days? I just ran the numbers for UC Irvine, which is in a much more affluent area, and two GA adults are $13, two GA kids are $10, and the total is $46. Seems to me Miami really needs to rethink pricing.
UNCW advance sale tix are $20-35 for adults (age 13 and up) and $10-20 for kids 12 and under depending on level and whether the seats are on the sidelines or up in the ends.
A number of their games this season have been sellouts. They are currently 20-8. For the first time in the 18 years I’ve lived here local TV is broadcasting about six of their home games. The student body is about the same size as ours but is far more enthusiastic about attending basketball games. They line up for hours for critical games. UNCW doesn’t have football but does have club hockey, which does draw crowds of students, who tailgate in the parking lot at the off campus Polar Ice facility.
Most of the season ticket holders for hoops are non-minority senior citizens, even though Wilmington has a sizable minority population. Hard to tell if that’s cost or culture or a little bit of both. Wilmington is the birthplace of both Meadowlark Lemon and Michael Jordan
Wilmington is a mix of a retirement, movie production, historic, party, college and beach town. There is no college party district adjacent to campus as in Oxford. Front Street, in downtown Wilmington, is several miles from campus.
As a CAA program, the Seahawks sports are broadcast on the FloSports platform. There is nothing fancy about 5,200 seat Trask Colleseum, which opened in 1977. It has the feel of a very large high school gym. Concessions are minimal.
At the Ball State game the other day, I was shocked at the lack of student seating by the court. I remember those red bleachers opposite the horseshoe end of court. They really need to bring those/a new set of bleachers back, because its really sad to see those tiny sets there.
When I was at Miami, the Harper years, we had bleachers practically on the court. It was great.
100% agree. Don’t understand why they got rid of the larger bleachers behind each basket.
One idea is to put the students behind the basket where the opponent shoots in the second half. Then, make the bleachers on the other side a “family section” where you charge a discounted price to attract local families. That way, all the families can sit together and you can still charge a premium price for the center court seats.
It seems like the AD has given up on getting students to basketball games and/or creating a good experience for them.
Right now the issue is that there is only one set of bleachers for students behind the north basket. The issue is we can probably only get more if we fill that bleacher. The issue is we, The BrickWall, can’t fill it as a lot of students who show up to the games refuse to join us because the student section is still officially at the halfway line on the east side. I think if athletics adds more bleachers and officially moves the student section, student engagement can increase and hopefully lead to more people showing up to games.
I never understood why this section of bleachers was removed (picture from 2013). Maybe someone can shed some light on that decision?
I do like what they’ve done on the opposite side with the beer garden/party area, FWIW
Yep, those were the bleachers I remember from 03-08. Never understood why they quit the Red Alert thing…
Same reason we have old dinosaur asshole ushers harassing students. On Saturday, during the Pacers Dunking Team show, there were football players at that end of the court, they were excited about what they were seeing. They would go and fist bump or high five the dunkers after dunks they liked. No one was being harmed, no danger to anyone during the dunks. Dunk team enjoyed it. Until some asshole usher bitched at the players for doing it. Way to kill student engagement. I saw it. My wife saw it. We were both pissed. Students were doing nothing wrong. This is how you DON"T GET students to attend. I hope the usher is reading this.
