That’s not the least bit out of line with police and fire spending as a share of budget for cities nationwide. I think in Anaheim’s most recent budget, police and fire were 2/3 of it.
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It’s only been a handful spread out amongst the different colleges. I think Miami also did some reorganizing with its language programs as well.
These are the broad categories to answer your question. Others are currently on the chopping block including music composition.
- American Studies
- Art History
- Classical Studies
- Critical Race and Ethnic Studies
- French
- Health Communication
- Health Information Technology
- Italian Studies
- Latin American Studies
- Latin Education
Six standalone language majors were replaced by a single World Languages and Cultures major with various sub-tracks.
Just to be fair, as of the latest information, Miami doesn’t seem to have a donor(s) to fund it. They are talking of taking loans/bonds to fund most if not the entire project. Like my answer on programs cut immediately above, I am simply trying to answer questions. I have already weighed in on my support for a new arena.
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Real question from alum with a business degree and an Accountancy major in 1991 and someone who loved my Italy trip last September.What would one do with an Italian Studies major?
Would you want to work in the US Embassy? Would you be an importer of Italian goods? Would you be a tour guide?
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I understand we need bond money or whatever it’s called to start but ultimately donors will come around. They always do. Build it and we will pay it off and it will start to make money.
I was simply addressing your comment that there “were” as in presently, are major donors for the new arena. Based on Miami’s BoT reports, there are none.
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Let’s keep Millett and pour the money that would have gone to the new arena into building a School for Music Studies. We would be the preeminent school in the field and draw students from all over the world.
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I’m not advocating for a degree in Italian. Someone asked a question, I thought I would be helpful and answer it. My wife has a degree from Miami’s business school before it was Farmer. She also has a MBA. I triple majored at Miami in economics, diplomacy and foreign affairs, and political science with a minor in history. Graduated in 4 years. Had a work study job the entire 4 years as the assistant to Dr. Paul Anderson, head of Miami’s technical writing department. I helped edit his textbook. My wife also had a work study job in the botany department all 4 years. She paid for her Miami degree herself. Out of state tuition for both of us. I held multiple offices in my fraternity, and was VP then President of Miami’s College Democrats. Juris Doctorate from Washington University.
Or when the new train comes to town, build a train station (nothing fancy, think long cinderblock corridor covered in ads and graffiti) where the musicians will play. We could literally be the premier school for buskers.
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Based on the description of the new combined major and the still existing Italian studies minor, it sounds like it’s predominantly language classes with classes about history/culture taught in either English or the target language.
So to use the major directly, teaching or working for the government would be the two most obvious career paths. I suspect most people would be taking it out of personal interest and have a dual major, or plan to go into an industry or graduate studies where the undergrad degree isn’t particularly important beyond having it (like law to some extent).
I knew someone (not a Miami grad) who was like that, majored in French for personal interest but also in a STEM major related to the career they actually went into.
I don’t want to brag but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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I understand being a Miami sports fan, being angry that we still play at Millett, and excited about a new arena.
I understand working at a college and being angry when you are constantly told “we have no money” and then angry when $250 million is allocated for something you aren’t interested in.
I think a logical, smart person can think “if we upgrade our facilities, it will upgrade our program, increase our exposure, and increase our enrollment.”
I think a logical, smart person can say, “we’ve got a decades-long tradition of poor sports attendance. With J-term and a small and apathetic fan-base, we’ll likely never recoup the cost of a $250 million arena.”
All arguments aren’t simple and obvious. And I don’t think this one is. We started with, “we have a donor that wants to build a new stadium near High Street.” And then moved to, “we don’t have a donor and want to build a stadium in Cook Field.” That’s quite a bit different. At the very least, I can understand people’s confusion.
I’m pro-stadium. But that’s because I like Miami hoops and want to attend some games there. But I get the pushback by some. How about a compromise. 3,500 seat stadium for hoops. 850 seater for volleyball. Other section has indoor pickleball for students and faculty. Everyone’s a winner!
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I a not a bot. Really. I am not a bot. Really. I am not…
The recouping won’t be from ticket sales it will be from increased enrollment in part due to having a nice arena. Having an arena isn’t just for basketball, it’s also allowing the ability for other events like millett had back in the day that Miami just doesn’t get anymore. Assuming you increase enrollment by 1,000 that’s an increase in $20 mil in tuition revenue for example
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I certainly agree Daniel. That being said, it seems like about 50 students attend the games, so a 1,000 increase in enrollment seems like a stretch. (I would absolutely love it if our team was so successful that we experienced increased enrollment.)
I’m not anti-stadium. I’m a ‘99 grad. Experienced and loved every minute of our Sweet 16 run. I just understand why some might have reservations.
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It’s not about an instant increase. I’m sure students attend Xavier in part because of basketball, students attended Miami in part because of hockey. It’s will be another factor as to why someone would attend Miami which is important when many schools in Ohio are decreasing enrollment
Back in the olden days when I was at Miami total undergrad attendance was about 12,000. Now half a century later it’s 22,281 (Miami Fact book from official web site. Almost 50% more despite having Millett “dragging us down.’
I guess if we’d have had a really cool mac daddy arena we might have 30,000+ by now eh? Kind of doubt it.
I think most high school kids visiting campus walk up to and in to Millett and be in awe at it’s size, the Sports Hall of Fame pictures, all the trophies and graphics on the windows inside. It wouldn’t be the reason they choose another school over us. Given today’s level of student engagement for some HS senior making a visit I’d bet they could care less about the arena. They’ll maybe walk by it but most will never set foot inside Millett before they get here.
Now for a basketball player we’re trying to recruit who’s getting sweet talked by opposing coaches trying to get him/her they’ll notice the difference. Certainly a coach with a newer facility it going to point it out.
All that said guess a new arena will help with student engagement when it’s easier to get to. Just don’t like Cook Field. If/when I do go to a b/ball game where the arena winds up won’t have anything to do with it. It’s going to be Cook so I’ll go when the time comes.
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I get the sentiment of compromise and understanding opposing arguments, but ultimately Miami is not a DIII private liberal arts college. A DI MAC university of our size needs an arena that can host enough people for major convocations and cultural events, 3500 isn’t gonna cut it (every MAC school has a facility with at least 4700 seats and most seat over 6000).
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