25/26 Other NCAA Basketball

Kent ended up shooting 1-23 from 3.

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1/23 will also be the number of the times Safford crapped his shorts mid-game after Kent’s next game (assuming, of course, that he doesn’t have another accident against Toledo on Tuesday)

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https://x.com/uazippedup/status/2017407910712619265?s=46&t=ZH1fFGwu8Q0191V3SgsUtQ

@GoldenFlashes see this?

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That game was hard on the eyes to watch. Akron didn’t play well. That’s how bad Kent St. was.

SLU is just destroying Dayton. They are good.

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Genuinely could be a final 4 contender

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SLU is 2 points at Stanford away from also being undefeated and probably taking up most if not all the attention we are getting.

SLU’s core is from the Indiana State team that was snubbed a couple years ago right?

Akron’s win over Kent makes it very likely they’ll finish top two in the MAC standings. Maybe they get tripped up once by UMass/UB/Kent but I can’t see them slipping that much, which means if we keep pace that we won’t meet them until the title game in Cleveland.

SLU’s core is no longer the ISU crowd. Avila and Schertz’ son are the only ISU players left. Avila is still there but Schertz brought in several new faces, and Thames has really stepped up. And with the new faces, Avila no longer has to be the go to scorer. Otieno, Jones, McCottry, Sharma. This is also the most size that can actually play that SLU has had in a while. I have said it many times this year, a Miami v. SLU game would be awesome basketball, and a Miami and Akron v SLU and George Mason, MAC/A10 round robin would be must watch.

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Quadruple bypass?

St Louis students copping our shit…

https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/1qrqpfh/the_billiken_swimmers_are_in_high_spirits_as_st/

Was a crazy buzzer beater too

Arizona and Arizona State are tied at 38 all at halftime

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#23 Alabama trails #19 Florida by 20 early in the 2nd.

I truly do not understand the NET. Akron is a good team but I am surprised that their net is so good. What is their best non conference win? They lost to good teams and only Yale was close

I really don’t understand the NET either, other than it’s a way to justify shitty 17-15 SEC, ACC, and Big 10 teams getting at-large invites to the field of 68.

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Do all of these computer rankings start fresh at the start of each season, or do they carry over from the previous year?

I know some of them begin a new year where the prior year holds some weight, but once you get to a certain point in the current season, the prior one is completely ignored.

That would be KenPom. I don’t think NET starts with any rankings which is why they don’t release it until like half way through the season

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Correct, KenPom uses prior season up until January or so. NET does not and therefore doesn’t release for the first month or so of the season to get data.

NET doesn’t publish the exact formula, but it does use efficiency metrics, which are the “hot” analytic. Its what KenPom/Torvik/EvanMiya are highly based on as well. Basically, it looks at how many possessions out of 100 you score and how many possessions out of 100 your opponent scores. That is weighted (again, we don’t know how) against how good your opponent is.

Here’s how the NCAA describes the NET but again, its a black box.

…include the Team Value Index (TVI), which is a result-based feature that rewards teams for beating quality opponents, particularly away from home, as well as an adjusted net efficiency rating.

The adjusted efficiency is a team’s net efficiency, adjusted for strength of opponent and location (home/away/neutral) across all games played. For example, a given efficiency value (net points per 100 possessions) against stronger opposition rates higher than the same efficiency against lesser opponents and having a certain efficiency on the road rates higher than the same efficiency at home.

Akron is equal with us (we are close enough its a statisical tie) because their efficiency numbers blow us away. That is why they are so much better in KenPom/Torvik/EvanMiya. They blow teams off the court winning by double digits in every single one of their wins. Efficiency doesn’t care about who wins and loses. A 1 point loss is statistically the exact same as a 1 point win. So a 3 point loss at Millett is treated as Miami and Akron are totally equal. We get nothing for winning that game in efficiency (NET’s TVI should give us something but we can’t see what since its hidden). That is why efficiency is a nice tool in the toolbox of evaluating teams and trying to get a good measure of their strength on the court, but I personally think winning games actually still matters.

Efficiency says losing 3 games by 1 point is the exact same as winning 3 games by 1 point. I think 3-0 is a hell of a lot different than 0-3.

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