Have any other of our players signed with an agent?
If so, I havenât seen the public announcement.
By the way, this is Perryâs agent. Profile says âNBA agent.â He has exactly 0 NBA clients.
I have no issue with players having representation. I have no real problem with players seeking out the most money in an open marketplace. I do have an issue with slapdick representation taking kids out of good situations in pursuit of a bag that may or may not be there. There is a line when representation crosses over into exploitation. Outward appearances suggest that this particular agentâs only trick is putting kids in the portal. Feels exploitative to me.
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Former Akron benchwarmer and UC law school grad. Sounds like sabotage to me.
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While I hope Trey isnât being represented by some chucklefuck, there are only so many minutes to go around and a log jam at point guard, so Iâm not particularly surprised at this one. Kudos to him, he was probably our most improved player over the course of the year. I hope he ends up in a good situation.
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See, e.g., whoever the hell is advising Rashad Amos
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By the way, for those seeking representation, Alex is now running SlapDickRepresentation.org ! 
Iâm not gonna speculate on any individualâs family or financial situation, but across the market that has to be a factor. All things being an equal, a player from a disadvantaged background with a lot of family financial pressure is probably more likely to respond to financial incentives than a well-off/wealthy player. That opens the door for unscrupulous parties to take advantage of them, not that I know if thatâs the case here.
Holy shit what a scum
Interesting profile on Linkedin for Perryâs agent
Thereâs plenty of information online about him. I wouldnât suggest heâs a nobody as heâs simply new. Worked for very much reputable law firms. Started his agency within the past couple of years. Licensed as an NBA agent, which I guess thatâs why his profile reads as such.
Some of these guys might return as well so one should be careful with critiques. If Perry doesnât, I wish him the best.
The two question marks at this point are Elmer and Skally. Presumably, the staff prioritized them.
I believe we all would agree this â new landscape â has many flaws. With respect to the value of a Miami degree I have both a Miami business school degree and a Ivy League degree - both are valuable I do not see Byers or Perry transferring to an Ivy or Duke etc so I believe a Miami degree should have value in their analysis. On a broader front any Miami player considering going onto the transfer portal should consider a multiple number of factors including ( 1) the value of a Miami degree v value of a degree from the school they are considering - they cannot play BB esp on a pro basis anywhere but for a small portion of their life, (2) the coaching value at Miami v an alternative, (3 ) playing time opportunities at Miami v alternatives (4) level of BOT, administration, alumni, student support at Miami v alternatives, (5) strength of returning team - ie chance to have a winning record and NCAA appearance v alternative . IF a Miami offer on money is competitive a rational analysis applying the above factors ( and perhaps geographic proximity to family ) would lead to a conclusion to stay at Miami. Further on the â just one more dollar analysis â that many on this site have seemed to accept having more playing time to further develop their game and increase their NIL/ portal value would also dictate staying at Miami for at least another year. When I apply the above analysis I believe both Perry and Byers are making a big mistake . Again just to be clear if they get a great deal more money from another reputable school then the decision becomes more complicated and perhaps they should leave.
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I thought he was at Chucklefuck and Associates?
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Your personal bias is driving your narrative. Until we see where they land and what they are paid your argument is moot. Those are your decision criteria which have absolutely zero bearing on the players in question and their criteria. Youâre just pissed because we are losing two players that effect your school and the wins and losses of the team you hold dear. It has nothing to do with them and all to do with your rooting interests.
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Good insight, CalOHawk. Using your criteria, I chose a few schools and Iâm interested in your opinionâŚmore for Byers than Perry admittedly
Northwestern - go on almost all the factors. 1. Degree is more valuable; 2. Collins has been around tremendous coaches his whole life; 3. Might be really close; 4. Letâs not forget, before about mid-January of this year, many of us were bitching about Miami on this; and 5. I would argue that ANY P4 school has better chance at making the NCAA tourney than Miami
Michigan - 1. Better degree; 2. Better coach; 3. Will get way less playing time; 4. Way better support; 5. Way better chance
Colorado - 1. Really good school; 2. Coach of P4 who has been mediocre versus Travis; 3. Byers could get solid minutes 4. Up in the air?; and 5) better chance at CU for the Dance
Boston College 1. BC degree is better than Miami; 2. Travis over Murray (but would get to meet Bill); 3. Same minutes?; 4. Miami better 5. Might be about equal!
You are making some good points here ejt40.
If you think BC and Miami have an equal shot at getting to March Madness in any given year, Iâm not sure that youâve seen BC basketball in a while. Miami needs to win 3 games in Cleveland each season. BC inevitably needs to win more than 3 in the ACC tournament because the team is never going to be high enough in the conference standings to need âonlyâ 3 conference tourney victories. Heck, BC didnât even qualify for the 15-team tournament this year.
Yesterday in an interview Geno Auriemma (UCONN WBB HC) was asked about the transfer portal. Geno being Geno was brutally honest, and accurate. He said âthe transfer portal has killed mid major basketballâ. He then went on to discuss how the transfer portal is evaporating opportunities that used to go to high school players. And Geno isnât saying UCONN isnât taking advantage of this. 2 of his key rotation pieces this year are transfers. But his answers were brutal and honest. Letâs step back for a moment, and just look at the bigger picture. Letâs not talk about Byers, Perry or any particular Miami player, but rather Miami as a mid major college athletics institution.
All of us to one degree or another have asked or postulated âwhat is Miamiâs roster money bag this yearâ. Because you can talk all day about value of the degree, the campus whatever, but ultimately what it comes down to for these athletes, be they at Miami or Vanderbilt or Indiana, is what they are going to get paid or what they can do to increase the value of the money they ultimately will make as a college athlete. These other things sound great on a message board, but bottom line, for almost all these kids, not all (and honestly for most everyone) is how much am I getting paid. So then we come to the institution part. Letâs say Miami got all their major donors to chip in a large amount this year, and they got hordes of smaller donations and put together a really nice âbagâ to buy players this year. Great. For how many years can you do that? Can you go back to the same donors next year and say, hey going to need that 100K again for BB plus need some for FB, WBB, etc. And the year after that, and after that etc. How long before at a mid major in particular, is donor fatigue, going to set in. I posit it will be quickly.
So either we need to find a select few of very big pocket money donors who can place a multimillion dollar seed amount into a good interest bearing account that can be drawn on soley for roster salaries, plus those same people giving additional money every single year, or/and we need to be cultivating new donors, and new big money donors, who havenât been tapped the year before, to then replace those who have and are either tapped out or have donor fatigue. As the old die off the young step in. And this will go for high majors as well, but they have generally a bigger pool to fish from. Not because they have more graduates, but because they have a more sustained passion for athletics. I am not saying Miami doesnât have a sustained passion for athletics. This yearâs basketball season showed we have immense passion-when we are winning. The key is can we keep winning? And the key to keep winning is money. And donât forget, those same people who are being asked to donate to Miami athletics are also being asked to donate to Miami University as a whole, to their local house of worship, the local theater and arts, food banks, political groups or causes they support and I could go on. I know for myself how much I am asked to contribute to various things.
Does this paint a pretty picture? No, it doesnât. In some ways it is depressing. Very depressing. Because Miami showed this year with the right pieces, we can not only compete in the MAC but at the highest levels of college athletics. And when we did so the vibe on campus, at Millett, uptown, and nationally in the press was palpable. It made us feel good. And it should. But we are going to lose some key pieces, to graduation (which always has happened) but now also to the portal as well. And it is expensive to replace those pieces. One national sports economist projected that a player that cost 1 million this year will cost 1.35 million next year, a 35% increase. High school players are demanding to be paid. Rotation pieces, not starters, but rotation pieces, are asking for six figures plus. Donor fatigue is real, and it is going to happen. Some called him âa whiny bitchâ, when Campbellâs head coach this week stepped down to take an assistantâs position, and said in his last press conference âCampbell doesnât have the moneyâ. I didnât criticize him. He is stating the truth. Clearly institutional support was a key decision (along with locale) in John Groceâs decision to leave Akron. It was clear he was leaving because Akron doesnât have the money to compete even with another mid major like College of Charleston. And Akron has been one of the bell weather programs of the MAC the last 10-15 years. Iâm sorry but that is telling.
Can Miami compete? Can we raise the money year afer year after year? I donât know. I hope so. Certainly the new arena will provide additional sources of revenue. How much? I have no idea, but at least it is something. And letâs not forget when we are funding roster money to fund roster money for womenâs sports as well. I hope people are paying attention to what Glenn Box has done with womenâs basketball in only 3 years. What Miami field hockey does year in and year out. Miami softball, despite coaching changes, continues to roll. But those players now expect to be paid as well. (I am not going into the discussion now of should we only fund certain programs, I am discussing what every program will need).
Do I like this system? No, I hate it. I didnât create it. College athletics and the powers that be created a terrible, wholly unregulated system. A system that never cared about any except the HM upper echelon, and now they care about mid majors and low majors even less. And I am not saying college athletes do or donât deserve to be paid like professional athletes (that is another discussion, I am simply discussing the system we now have). College athletics is a business, the sheet is off, pure and simple, and absent institutional changes, either at the top or from mid majors themselves, you will either find a way to live in the system or cease to function. I hope Miami can find a way to keep the majority of the nucleus of this team, and find the money to bring in replacements for those that we have lost so we can win at a high level next year, and keep the momentum rolling, because that is the only chance we have to stave off donor fatigue and fan apathy for a later day.
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Which is exactly the perspective one should have on a fan board. None of these college kids would get paid any money to play basketball if it wasnt for irrational fans only caring about their school- none of us would care who Brant Byers was if he went to St Bonaventure out of high school
Letâs get positive news from Eian and/or Luke today and make this a Great Friday.
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Excellent post. I think the idea of donor fatigue is going to show up in the next few years at every school, not just the mid-majors. Kids at every level are being paid sums that make no sense when compared to professional sports. There are kids being paid 7 figures in football at P4 schools who project to be third day draft guys. Those kids are getting paid in some cases double what they will make in the NFL. Itâs like a school paying a kid $200K a year to major in engineering when his after graduation job will at P&G will pay him $100K. The people funding this will eventually get bored with it, or frustrated when they realize they canât buy a championship every year. IMO, Miami has about 5 years to try to dominate the MAC and move on to a conference that provides adequate revenue to fund athletics. When the TV contract renews and conference realignment happens again, Miami either needs to go to the ACC or the UAA.
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