2025-26 Miami hockey thread

Thanks to everyone for the explanation.

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Yep. Carly mention that sweet rink at Oswego?

She said the dorms are right on the lake. Outside of 15 feet of snow in the winter, she said it might be a nice place to go to school.

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The school itself kind of looks like it might have been built by the Soviets.The Oswego rink is absolute fire for a D3 rink.

rink.

https://x.com/rms_hockey/status/2000430968461570334?s=46&t=iks34uxihN5C4hJJ57kxog

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Well, we didn’t get ranked, but we knocked CC out of the poll: https://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll

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My goodness that’s a beauty.

Found this interesting. Thought there’d be more NCHC schools up top in expenses because of the travel. Idk how we are top 10 in revenue :joy: Maybe taking the private schools out helps that.

https://x.com/soshnick/status/2000778813479797202?s=46&t=iks34uxihN5C4hJJ57kxog

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So if I’m reading this right, we made $1?

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Surprised BG’s revenue is so low

Same number as conference wins we had that season

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The revenue/expenses are equal because student fee/other institutional subsidies are counted as revenue

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You have to understand what you are reading when you read these revenue and expense reports from Miami. Every sport at Miami loses money and they balance out the expenses with student fee revenue that makes everything “break even”.

So Ice Hockey was reported with 3,049,433 in revenue, but 2,047,467 of that is student fees and 586,984 is direct institution support (university general fund).

Actual hockey “revenue” (money it makes) is more like 400k. So the program “loses” 2.6m a year.

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On the expense side, there’s a $933,864 line item for scholarships, which is 18 scholarships at $51,881 each. Since it doesn’t actually cost Miami $52k per student, the expense side is definitely inflated a bit.

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This is the right way to think about it, but there’s a few more caveats to that, so the exact number is impossible to know.

Advertising/sponsorships aren’t reported at the sports level but obviously hockey drives some % of that. NCHC TV revenue isn’t assigned to hockey specifically (UND makes the most of any school at 500K+, I’d expect Miami’s share to probably be somewhere in the high five figures to low six figures). Goggin afaik isn’t tracked on the ADs budget at all.

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Out of State tuition, fees and room and board is $59k. Athletics has to cover those costs to the other areas of the university.

But athletics isn’t really “covering” those costs. It’s all a bit of creative accounting to zero out the financials of the athletics department. But my point is the true cost of athletics is somewhat overstated because it doesn’t actually cost Miami $50-$60k for a full athletic scholarship. That’s just the full sticker price they plug in for accounting purposes.

Note: The $52k number was from the athletic financials for fiscal year ending 6/30/2024 (link below), so that number would be a bit lower than the current cost of $59k.

No, I believe that they are. The education and housing areas of Miami charge athletics for their sevices. Athletics covers those costs through revenue and student fees. It’s not just an accounting manuver it’s an acutal expense for athletics.

That is impressive. We are over double OSU. We could easily be in the Big10 and hang with the $$$$ but we are in a better and harder league currently. No need to downgrade.

It would be interesting to see where ND fits, but they are private and probably that is inaccessible.

Hoosierhawk has it right, this chart is taking the student fees we use to prop up the program and counting it as revenue (newsflash: it’s not) as that’s how we account for stuff. In actuality, we’re in line with BUGS as one of the poorer programs in college hockey, especially in the NCHC. So be careful with these numbers and comparisons as the data is not normalized across the schools in the sample.

I’ve looked at a lot of data on this topic and I don’t think this chart is very accurate, but to each his/her own. Draw conclusions/comparisons at your peril.

Back to lurking.