Whom do/did you hate more?

I like teams that roll into Oxford en mass! Marshall ( Randy Moss era) was a hoot.
Their liquid refreshment at tailgating was most interesting.

The visitor fans experience is another discussion if we travel to them.(low flying batteries).

Toledo will be a test. Go Miami!

Marshall and now Cincinnati

I dont hate Ohio or any other MAC team

The way it was when I was at Miami:

Cincinnati - Aspirational one sided rivalry

Ohio - Back and forth competitive rivalry that’s taken seriously, but has limited animosity

Ball St - One step above Civil conFLiCT

Marshall - Not really a rivalry, but holy crap there is something seriously wrong with these people

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Marshall, no question, especially for us late 90s/early2000s alums.

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I like to think of the MAC as a nice, quiet neighborhood, OU & Miami have lived in the neighborhood since it was developed and have beautiful red brick homes at opposite ends of the street. The families are cordial, but clearly competitive…always trying to out do each other with landscaping, holiday decorations, nice furniture, kids’ accomplishments, etc. It’s been a long simmering distrust and dislike for generations, but no one can really remember what started it. Nonetheless, it’s still there. As for UC, they live in the neighborhood next door and their weird, mid-century modern home with the quirky contemporary statues backs up to Miami. UC has a passive aggressive jealousy of Miami and has always been complaining about something…they’ve even tried to get the city to condemn our home way back before they put the fence up! This has historically been a more vitriolic relationship, but as UC’s neighborhood has gotten more pricy, they have tried “keep up with the Joneses.” The result is a tacky house with trailer park sensibilities and lots of concrete surrounded by newer homes populated by other “new money” folks trying to show off their new found riches or younger families who came into wealth early and aren’t sure what to do with it. Finally, Marshall was that loud, crazy family who moved into the neighborhood from out of town several years back and, for the brief time they were there, wrecked havoc on everyone and everything! Late night parties, fireworks all year 'round, strange people showing up at the front door at odd hours, blackout curtains in the windows… Mailboxes would be knocked over, flaming bags of poop would show up on your front step, the police started patrolling more often…it was a hot mess. EVERYONE hated them and were extremely happy when they finally left.

My point is this…if you’ve been associated with Miami for a long time (as I have), you have a deep seated, but somewhat gentile hatred of OU. You just don’t care for them, which is ironic since the two families are amazingly similar. The hatred for UC is more intense, but you don’t really pay much attention to them anymore as their focus has moved elsewhere. Still, you can’t forget all of the sh*t they did you all over the years and you hate how they put on airs all the time. Pompous bastards…they think they’re better than us?? As for Marshall, if you lived at home while they were in the neighborhood, there’s nothing that can compare with that craziness! It even created a bond between Miami and OU…everyone hated Marshall. But their stay was short-lived and now you actually feel a bit sorry for them as they’ve moved from neighborhood to neighborhood (and even tried living in a few unincorporated areas) and just can’t ever fit in. They’re just too messed up and have been for generations!

So, for those folks who went to Miami in the '90s, I completely understand the hatred for Marshall. For those of us who were around in the '60s/'70s/80s, though, it will always be OU and UC. We just can’t forget the generations of contempt for each other…and never will.

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OU. No doubt.

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On a cultural seismograph, Miami never moved the needle, OU rattled it once a year, UC once a year and upon every encounter with a UC grad…and Marshall just destroyed the gizmo with a tooth-missing, hillbilly-decked out, profanity-laced, moonshine-induced appearance that left a stench of vomit both when they dared to visit Oxford and whenever we tiptoed into Morgantown hoping not to get too abused by the locals.

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Damn straight. Although one minor note… Huntington. Even Morgantown doesn’t want to be confused with Huntington.

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I hated Huntington so much…I drove a car there once a long, long time ago…and the roads were just God-awful…that I obviously obliterated the name of the dump from my memory bank. Morgantown is likely habitable…though I’ve never had the “pleasure.”

Thanks…hopefully covered myself.

I want to add, that years ago Huntington use to have a topless car wash;
and I don’t mean that the cars were topless.

Marshall.

  1. They played a pansy-ass OOC schedule and ended up winning the MAC
  2. Incredibly lax oversight of their program and players
  3. Home-town refs screwed Miami out of a championship with a bullshit holding call on 4th and 3 with the title on the line
  4. Loser fan base that physically assaulted opposing fans and team families just for daring to attend and cheer on their kids, keying cars, etc.

I never understood the rivalry with Ohio U. They weren’t particularly close geographically, the schools didn’t seem to attract the same type of student, the only guy who was an Ohio U guy who gave Miami any problems when I was there was “Shaq of the MAC”, the late great Brandon Hunter. Any one wanna fill me in as to why Miami has a rivalry with OU?

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OU just because people from Marshall can’t read and write so I have pity on them.

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Again, the Shaq of the MAC was Gary Trent.

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I’m not sure what “gentile” hatred is but my feelings about OU are far from genteel.

Nice essay, FormerTownie.

I think the fact that Ohio and Miami were founded just five years apart has something to do with it, too. They’ve always envied our more suburban locale, our business school, and our Cradle. We’ve come to appreciate their Marching 110 and their Journalism School. Miami students even adopted a taste for both grass and Bluegrass from the Athens folks over the past 50 years.

The Ohio Campus with its red bricks emulates an Appalachian version of Miami’s. Miami’s Red Brick campus is far more manicured.

Both Ohio and Miami have a common mother - the State of Ohio.

Marshall, on the other hand is like a distant cousin who grew up in a neighborhood on the other side of the tracks. When they visited it was always like the Griswolds getting a visit from Randy Quaid in Christmas Vacation. When we visited them there it was always a row - usually their fault but occasionally ours. Somebody always turned over the table and ruined the spread.

Your depiction of UC needs no embellishment whatsoever.

Too old (or young I guess) to have ever played in Huntingdon. But hands down the most visceral memory I have is playing at Peden. I can barely get the words out of my mouth….OU. At 53, and with my prime well in the rear view mirror, I’d take my chances with any OU alum

When I found out my kids babysitter was going to OU, that was the last time she watched my kids.

I saw a young associate wearing an OU sweatshirt in the cafeteria on a casual Friday, I pointed out that he spilled his cheerios all over himself at breakfast. He said, “you must have gone to Miami.” And I said “you’re damn phucking right and we will always own you.”

Marshall cheats. Marshall is the worst university in America. Their fans are phucktards……but I still HATE OU that much more

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My wife hates it when someone says they went to OU and I respond with “I’m sorry you couldn’t get into college, but I sure your life will work out anyway “.

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