Vivek: Not a MACtion Guy

=>Attacking motives and bias of why someone has an opinion on a policy is a logic fallacy.

Bias is irrelevant.

The top 1% of taxpayers pay 22% of federal taxes; the top 50% pay 97% of income taxes. I wasn’t an Econ major but it looks to me like the rich aren’t getting away with anything.

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A salient point if the presumption is that the wealthy should pay taxes in proportion to their household wealth. But household wealth does not equal income.

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=>How did y’all dumbasses get on the topic of economic policy on a discussion of mergers of Ohio colleges?

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The Man!

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And several butcher’s aprons.

https://x.com/i/status/2037840379467432095

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=>I think I have successfully poison pilled this thread.

But back to original point of thread, Vivek makes his case.

https://x.com/i/status/2037927002255011858

Akron/Kent/YSU=UNC/Duke/NCSt

:grin:

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To try to keep on sports, even in a consolidation, I’d expect Akron and Kent to keep independent athletic teams. There are plenty of university “systems” where different campuses have distinct division I teams still.

He should start by combing high schools. St. Xavier and Moeller. We’ll see how well that works out

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The only pod that works geographically is Alton/Kent/Youngstown. The mascot could be a KangaPenguin with wings.

The mascot should be a broke ass unemployed steelworker.

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Vivek is the wrong answer to a legit question. Ohio’s system was overbuilt, too many four year campuses, redundant branch campuses and community colleges and tons of extremely lowly ranked graduate programs that were added on in the 60s and 70s. It needs some structure and regulation and consolidation.

Now, I think Vivek doesn’t give a damn about any of it, but does see a backdoor to gutting higher ed funding to pay for eliminating the state income tax.

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I’d argue it’s not necessary overbuilt, but outdated and poorly allocated for 2026. I’ll talk about Illinois since it’s what I know; the state excluding Chicagoland was big enough in 1950 that it alone would’ve been the 17th largest state at the time. It was enough people to support second-tier public colleges like ISU, NIU, EIU, WIU, SIU, and UIS with regional students (and some Chicagoans) who couldn’t get into U of I or afford a private school.

Since then the downstate economy has stagnated/cratered and the demographics have taken a nose dive since the Great Recession. Besides ISU, all of those institutions are hemorrhaging enrollment (along with Chicago State on the south side). Despite the overcapacity on paper, almost half Illinois’ college-bound students go out-of-state (second most in the nation) because not everyone from Chicagoland who tests well enough for a good public university can go to U of I. The ones that don’t usually go to schools like Miami because they don’t want to live in Dekalb for four years if they have options.

UIUC for IN-STATE tuition, room & board is $38K, which is about twice of IU, Wisconsin and Purdue charge their in-state kids.

UI Chicago is growing, has about 30K students and is under $30K for in-staters.

NIU is dirt cheap, EIU is trying to get first-generation and foreign students, WIU is in big trouble, and I think SIU is kinda treading water?

Miami has a very good reputation in the Chicagoland area.

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