I used them as a quick example. How about Marshall? Again, just an example.
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The payouts for ābuy gamesā are based more on TV revenue than how many asses there are in the seats. UC will be getting B12 TV money. They can pay us the going FBS v. G5 rate, or they can come to Yager too, or we can end the series. (If you were to read my posts on this topic a few years ago, my opinion has completely changed).
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@Bluesman Good point.
Marshall is a good option for a G5 home and home, as would be MTSU. Iād like to see us do some 1 and 1 contracts with some other Sun Belt teams. Weāve got one with JMU on the books right now. I would suggest one with Coastal, or App State. East Carolina is a mid-level G5 weāve never played. As for close-by P5 options, I suggest looking at Louisville and another trip to Indiana. COVID cheated us out of a trip to Pitt. Thatās another fairly close P5 option that would be very appealing to our NE Ohio alumni.
Finally, Iād like to see us stretch our footprint a little wider to some areas where we have fairly large alumni contingents - the Bay Area, SoCal, or maybe NYC to play Rutgers. We havenāt played at Maryland since my senior year in 1970. Weāve never played Navy. Lots of Miami alumns in DC.
Miami has bad scheduling decisions down to a science. Who can remember these gems:
Boise State
7/13/05 Miami announces 2-game series: 2009, 2010
Brad Bates: āWe have great respect for Boise State and look forward to traveling there in 2009 and hosting the Broncos in 2010.ā BOISE STATE NEVER PLAYED IN OXFORD.
Minnesota:
5/24/05 Miami announces 3-game series: 2007, 2009, 2011
BUTā¦Miami chose to renegotiate and defer the home game to a later year as it signed the Colorado contract which guaranteed it a home game on primetime with ESPN on a Friday night. MINNESOTA NEVER PLAYED IN OXFORD
Colorado:
7/25/2006 Miami announces 2-game series: 2007, 2009
HC Shane Montgomery: āThis is an exciting series for our program,ā Montgomery said. āBeing able to play a nationally-prominent program at a great venue next season while expanding our geographic appeal is a great opportunity in itself. But to be able to bring the University of Colorado into Yager Stadium in 2009 will make for a truly special day for our supporters.ā
To accommodate the addition of Colorado to its future schedules, Miami is working with Minnesota to move its originally scheduled 2009 home game with the Gophers to a different season. COLORADO NEVER PLAYED IN OXFORD ON PRIME TIME FRIDAY NIGHT ON ESPN
Kentucky
3/26/09: Miami announces a 2-game series: 2009, 2013
Missouri
6/4/09: Miami announces 2-game series: 2010, 2012
The series with Missouri is a two-year deal that will feature games in Columbia in 2010 and in Oxford in 2012. MISSOURI NEVER PLAYED IN OXFORD
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Kentucky fallout:
for some reason Brad Bates decided that the UK game HAD to happen in 2009. He was looking for a big payday. However, hereās what Miami gave up:
- A home football game vs. B12 Colorado on ESPN
- An away basketball game played at Colorado in 2009 with NO compensation (est. loss of $80k)
- A home/home basketball game with Towson State (this was to appease Northwestern for causing it scheduling issues) was forced to be scheduled.
- The loss of hosting Boise AND forced to play an additional game to be played at Boise as a replacement for Bowling Green.
- Only a $750k payday from game at PBS. Because of the terrible fan turnout (only 42k at game) Miami didnāt earn as much $$ as it thought it would. Surprise!
- Miami takes only $500k to play at UK in 2010 at a $300k discount
- a complete screw-up of the 2009 FB schedule causing Miami to play only 1 true home game the first 7 weeks of the season! not good for a young team.
Ultimately, this great UK game at PBS that would be the ālargest gathering of Miami Alums everā caused Miami to give up home games vs. Minnesota, Colorado and Boise
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I doubt we will just be going just to Nippert and I hope we donāt make that deal. I would sadly rather end it if UC wants to ONLY play at Nippert. Unless you get your stadium to 75k and have more $$ for buy games, then not worth it. Also we donāt want a permanent road game against a peer school. Some other P3ās like the B10, ACC, and SEC still go to some MAC schools and MWC schools etc. at times for some 1:1 or 2:1 series. What makes UC better than a P3 school? Miami FL recently play at Toledo for example.
I would not sign any contract with UC now. I want to see what happens over the rest of our current contract. We still have 3 home games on that deal. If we are not competitive over those games then discontinue. I would say going to UC every year is a total NO! I would say if we continue playing, play one year at Nippert, two years at PBS, and one year at Miami. I would suggest adding those PBS games to both teams season tickets. That is if we are competitive over the rest of the current contract. If not, then just move on.
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I am good with this, Dan. A 2 fer 1 deal with a P5 school (in this case, newbie P5 school UC) makes sense so long as we get the going rate for a buy game for a G5 FBS school playing at a P5 school.
I hear Bluesman on a possible rotation w PBS may need to be included, and maybe we will have to settle for that, but I would prefer playing at our respective home fields if that is at all plausibleā¦
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Why on Godās green earth would Miami stoop to a 2 for 1 with a geographically irrelevant B12 school that has made this rivalry āuncompetitiveā for the last decade? Miami had itās chance to build momentum and develop its program, like UC, but decided otherwiseā¦Miami and UC has had some good history, but it is time to schedule some winnable games.
Well, Miami isnāt a peer football school. Not by a longshot.
Iām not saying Miami should take a deal that only has games at Nippert. Maybe they should, maybe not. But it makes no sense for UC to continue to schedule games at places like Miami or WKU or Athens even if they are on the schedule right now. I expect those go away in favor of strictly P5 home and homes. I think even the days of taking one offs in Columbus are done. The fact you can pull out specific oddities like Miami going to Toledo or Iowa State ending up at OU shows how bizarre, and likely foolish, those decisions are. I donāt expect any P4 school to make those types of decisions going forward. Youāre more likely to see the power leagues expand their conference slate to 10 games and just play FCS warmups than you are to see more games on the road in the nonconference.
We are in no way a peer school to UC in football.
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The revenue for the ACC or B12 will never grow past what it is nowā¦Once the Big10 adds another school or two out west and the SEC makes corresponding additions from the ACC, those two conferences are going suck all the money from the rest of college football.
Iād guess the B1G is done out West or Cal and Stanford would already be in. B1G is waiting for UVA, UNC and maybe Miami of Florida.
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Probably so. I would have thought the B1G would have taken Stanford to rope ND In after their TV contract expires. Didnāt happen. Clemson and Miami of Florida are likely SEC additions, I think. UNC and UVA are, as you suggest, likely to be drafted into the B1G.
I have said this more than once before. I expect many of these mid major ābuy gamesā to disappear.
Part of my post was to create some steam and controversy. While you are likely right about some power schools not going on the road, likely many will still schedule these. FCS games are the likely ones to get dropped.
The future will be likely be 2 major 24 team conferences and āall the othersā including a left over B12/PAC/ACC hybrid and then maybe 4-5 other conferences if they can survive. While the Big 12 is awesome in basketball, It has lost quite a bit losing Texas, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma over the years. Sure Colorado and Utah are good, but it is not the same B12.
Right the ship and beat UC!
Are you suggesting youā¦catfished us?
You rascal. And we all took the hook. I feel like the end of a Scooby Doo episode where the swamp monster turns out to be Old Man Jenkins!
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Wow, great info.
And they would have gotten away with it too, if it werenāt for those meddling kids.
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I donāt care about the future schedule. Thatās a problem that will be dealt with down the line by people paid to deal with it.
Anyway, Emory Jones is obviously trash but how is he on his fourth school in 6 years and has not had to sit out a year? Dude has to lead the country in getting benched and leaving AKA The Tathan Martell.