One word to describe that conference after this year…Mediocre…
I’d call it conference USA 2: electric boogaloo.
Until the pac 12 and big 12 merge which this gentle reader says is gonna happen and why Colorado is dumb to pay the exit fee only to end up back in the same area.
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The PAC 12 issued a statement today that it plans to expand after its media rights deal is finalized (possibly within the next several years?).
San Diego State and SMU are on the PAC 12’s list. Probably a couple more from the Mountain West like Colorado State or Boise State.
Maybe they’ll try to poach a MAC school or two! Miami and Toledo to the PAC 12? Lol
I heard on a talk show yesterday that Colorado will have no entry fee and will get a $31 million payment from their conference TV deal which was for any Power conference school jumping to the Big 12.
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If Arizona State can be in the NCHC, Miami can be in the Pac 12!
TheChuck - Our longest bus trips would be to UC and to CVG. Lol
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Wow! I bet UC, Houston, and quasi national champions Central FL must feel great about that. If in fact true, then a better move than I had realized. Still feel like they all end up together in the end (Pac and B12). I had another thought re: ACC. If the SEC takes FSU, then inevitably, North Carolina or Miami joins it. I would be very nervous if I was Wake or Duke. Duke hoops would have loads of suitors but football not as much. Now it seems the ACC is the weak link of the big 5.
I know it’s a joke, but $31 mil pays for a decent amount of charter flights. Plus the increase in sales for tickets and licensing. I do think there are a few MAC schools that could eventually compete in a P5 conference if they were ever given an invite.
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How great would it be if us, Wake, vandy, Duke, and some other quality academic schools with smaller sports programs banded together. Will never happen but a guy can dream!
Unfortunately, we are no longer close to those schools academically.
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Devry?
Were we ever close to Duke and Vandy and similar schools? I have a hard time believing that.
No. We are a Top 100 national PUBLIC university. They are top 25 national universities overall. .
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I do think we crack the top 50 (barely) as a public university and almost crack the top 100 as a national university, so I wouldn’t sell us out that low.
In any event, I think some read way too much into the public ivy book. Who knows what led the author to include us and Vermont over some options like Washington, Wisconsin and Georgia Tech that didn’t make it. In any event, I don’t think anyone then–much less now–ever said, “Hmmmm, Duke or Vanderbilt or Miami; I’m torn.”
Well, back in 1985, Miami had a MUCH better academic reputation and ranking! I think we were a top 50 National university back then, so probably a top 25 or top 20 public university. Richard Moll (the author of “Public Ivy”) stayed at our house when he was in Oxford doing some research and interviews for the book and was very impressed with what Miami had to offer. I also think he wanted to throw a few “underdogs” into the book to garner press. Plus, I think Miami’s campus and bucolic setting helped, too. The real wild card in that book was The New College of Florida, if you ask me! Sadly, Miami has been passed by by almost every “runner-up” in the original Public Ivies.
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Correcting my earlier post: US News has us currently as the #105 ranked National University and #48 Public University. Buffalo is the only MAC university ranked above us. Duke is the #10 National University and Vanderbilt is #13.
According to these two sites, never in the top 50. I do remember that when (mid 90s) I was college shopping, USNWR didn’t rank beyond the top 50. After that, there was tier 2, tier 3, and tier 4, each tier grouped together and listed alphabetically. At that time, Miami and OSU were tier 2 with some other Ohio publics in 3 and 4.
https://publicuniversityhonors.com/tag/u-s-news-historical-college-rankings/
US News Best National Universities 2022-2023
#49 - OSU
#62 - Pitt
#105 - Miami
#127 - UD
#151 - UC
#182 - OU
Closer to UD and UC than OSU? There had better be some serious head banging in Rouderbush right now and plans about changing things.
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For a real eye-opener, look at the annual Wall Street Journal rankings…It’s not a very pretty picture of Miami as I recall. Of course, the elements of what constitutes the positioning of schools has a lot (if not all) to do with it.
As I recall, Miami is mired somewhere well past number 200…and, according to the characteristics measured, we trail a lot of places that are rather surprising to me…but the world may have changed over the years in ways that have not favored Miami as much as some other institutions…