Army, Navy, NIL

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I can’t remember the last time Army and Navy both had such good teams.

It does not make a lot of sense considering the current landscape of college football.

The service academy’s cannot redshirt players (although they use prep schools), can’t take advantage of the transfer portal and there is no NIL money.

How are they succeeding?

Is it because they are able to build continuity and get a lot from their upperclassmen?

They may lose guys in the first year or two but once they pass that level they cannot leave the academy as they are locked into their service commitment.

They also may benefit in that the guys who choose Army/ Navy/ Air Force are not likely expecting to go to the NFL anyway.

What is it?

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I was listening to the radio and they said Navy started with 65 people for this senior class and they ended with 23. So they do lose people

Also i wonder how impacted they will be with the roster limitations - it looks like they have about 150 on that sideline

They are impressive but I will say Armys schedule was incredibly easy this year. They played one power team - Notre Dame - and were destroyed far worse than we were

I am guessing that they style the run doesnt transfer great to other programs.

But they are impressive

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It’s a good thing Army lost to Notre Dame and Boise didn’t lose a second game. Otherwise Army could have had the G5 bid… and then this loss would have shown the flaw in that potential selection.

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Watching the game and the Alma mater tradition post game reminds me of why I get violently sick when I hear the term NIL……

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Although I don’t get violently ill, I do feel my blood pressure rise a bit. What have we become?

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The academies have always been exempt from the roster size limits. Unsure if that’s continuing, but that’s been the rule so far.

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This has always been the outcome college sports has been heading toward. I find it ironic that coaches are retiring to get away from the system - a system they created.

Here’s a map of the highest-paid public employees by state:

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Shoutout to Nevada.

I am surprised basketball beat out football in Florida.

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I think this is a bit outdated. Napier’s contract made him the highest paid employee in Florida IIRC

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And 80% of his income is Wayne Newton alone.

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Now I am leaning toward a more serious nausea. Thanks for confirming what I have thought for a long time to be true.

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A country with a justice system that finally decided young adults who generate billions of dollars for colleges should get a cut of the action? The fact the athletes were exploited for so long is what makes my blood pressure rise.

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So are you satisfied with the system put in place to right these wrongs ?

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Nobody is. But that’s not the athlete’s fault, nor their responsibility. The adults failed.

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I’m very satisfied with allowing players the opportunity to be paid. The current structure of how they are being paid is not ideal, but with any major disruption, it’s going to take time to get the details sorted out.

Were you satisfied with the old system of players not being allowed to make money and the coaches/schools/administrators getting all the money?

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College athletes deserve to be compensated. Period, exclamation point. I have never said nor I hope implied anything else. It’s the free agent type of system that is screwy. The idea that the highest bidder gets the prize goes against my belief in Miami’s level of sports. There needs to be regulation put in place. It is my opinion that no player should play for three or four schools in his or her collegiate career. Two, certainly, more-certainly not.

This may come down to a union v management thing. What have we done?

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“Ill” is very close to “NIL”. They sort of thyme, even though NIL is spelled out.

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The only way this system continues to make any sense for schools like Miami is if letters of intent are changed to be contracts where we have “rights” to players for 2-4 years and are allowed to “sell” those rights similar to how transfers work in global soccer. Sure, Texas Tech can sign a WR from us for 900,000, but they have to pay a buyout to Miami for that right. Not sure what the correct compensation is, but we are getting screwed if we are going to become and development academy and get no part of the larger profit.

Schools like Miami should also get some protection when we offer a chance to play to guys like Gage and Amos, they find success, and go leave after a year. Imagine a world where they signed 2 year contracts with Miami and South Carolina and Ole Miss had to pay Miami a buy out to offer them.

If these are going to be professionals, lets professionalize this. Global soccer has been doing this for decades with youth academies and has a framework in place American college football can probably look to for some ideas.

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My parents sacrificed so I could go to college. Athletes on scholarship went for free. You can make a good arguement that they should have had more control, but nowadays this can amount to hundreds of thousands of dollars for four years. They weren’t and aren’t serfs.

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That was a good argument before coaches were getting paid 10m+ per year and schools were signing media deals worth 80-100m dollars per school per year.

There is too much money being made for players to not be entitled to a portion of it beyond a “free ride”. Its not the 70s or 80s anymore. This isn’t about the value of scholarship or serfdom (a degree is one of the most valuable things for class mobility), its about the magnitude of money being made and who should get a piece of it. I have not seen a convincing argument why the players shouldn’t get a significant piece of that prize.

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