True…the more 3 stars, the more likely that a high % pans out…it would seem, but at Miami…
It is interesting though…Sorenson a 2?, Pace was a 2 star, Dom Rob a 2, Weatherford 2, Kame Butler I believe barely a 3, Phelps a Three Star?
Sorenson played QB in high school. Dom was a QB in HS. Weatherford was a lanky DB in HS and is going to the NFL as a LB. Butler was a .82 composite, which is high for the MAC. Phelps was one of the highest ranked recruits Miami has pulled.
Pace is the only one I would say was incorrect and it’s because of his lack of size.
Sorenson and Weatherford are the only two that were a bit of a surprise. Sorenson because nobody had really seen him play WR and the class he came in with was loaded with them. Weatherford because nobody knew if he could be quick enough to play DB at his height.
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That’s my point though…at Miami it does not seem to really follow that trend (i.e., best development from the 3 stars, as our best were 2s or I guess potentially unranked in the position they ended up playing in college).
Not sure if there are a lot of other schools doing it (I’m sure there are plenty…conversion to TE was
always popular one)…but Miami has had a lot of success with the position switch (and quite a few switches over the years)…I knew Phelps was up there when we signed him, could not remember if it was him or Kam (was surprised to see he was actually below Phelps).
That said…you see above in our arguably best players…more were below the 3-star line (4 to 2)…even Kam (who is getting far more interest than Phelps in the Portal was ranked lower, albeit slightly, than Lonnie out of HS)…
I agree of course you want to strive for more three stars and trust that system…but at Miami it does seem that we’ve bucked the trend to some degree (or at least have as much success with sub-3 stars)…which is even more impressive with the position switches (b/c if Sorenson is 2 at QB, he’s unranked potentially at WR out of HS, right).
Kudos to our staff for that development. Also gives me hope that the guys that we’ve grabbed from the portal, the coaches feel they can coach them up to greater success quickly.
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How so? We used to have crappy recruiting classes. We had a period of nearly nobody going to the NFL. Now we get lots of three stars and we have guys going to the NFL every year. We’re literally the poster child for it. I even said, star ranking doesn’t determine an individual player’s success, but it does have a correlation with team success and number of breakthrough players.
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What I’m saying is…we actually seem to still be the poster child for developing the 2-star and a walk-on still has his place, that’s all.
We are getting better classes, yes…but I found it ironic that more 2-stars or “unknowns” are the actual NFL prospects recently (as noted above, also add Doug Costin to that list - 77 rating).
I’m sure that the correlation of overall success, across CFB works and in fact those 3-stars are the stars of the teams, but much of Miami’s success has been from 2-stars still it seems. Not that the correlation still does not work at Miami…was just thinking inside these numbers it’s interesting.
Kam and Phelps (although gone) may balance that out to a degree…but Doyle is the only 3-star beyond the above that has really added significantly to our success (Hippenhammer as a transfer is in that discussion, beyond the obvious, below).
And of course QB is a position that I think the rating system is pretty unquestioned…and tends to correlate to the success of team the most…Brett might be close to the highest ranked kid we’ve ever had out of HS?
As I said above I’m not really questioning the correlation, just in Miami’s case, it is ironic that many of our best players recently were sub-80 in ranking (add Ryan Mcwood to that list as well).
The most noteworthy conversion accomplishment of this coaching staff was Quentin Rollins. That was a unicorn experience.
Maybe…
But not tonight.
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