In reality, there are no meaningful data or anything you can compare. For example, Woullard went to Oklahoma and played sparingly. There is no example of Woullard staying at Miami putting up big numbers and possibly being named MAC defensive POY, so there’s really nothing to support the argument of staying put vs moving on to a P4 program. I think more to the point it’s not about making it in the NFL as it is making it to an NFL training camp. You move up to a P4 and play very little and there’s nothing for NFL scouts to see. Stay put at your G5 school and continue to put up big numbers and some NFL scouts will take notice. You may not get drafted, but the odds are a lot better for getting a camp invite as an undrafted free agent. As Red Sea says, MAC tape is better than no tape.
I was talking to Armand Robinson once about his training camps with the Steelers and then the 49ers. He got a nice sum of money for everyday he was in camp. Ultimately, he didn’t make in the NFL, but at least he got a shot and walked away with a decent chunk of change just for hanging around for a few weeks in two different training camps. What got him into those camps were big numbers and tape, things he might not of had had he transferred to a P4 program.
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I think ultimately the NFL is very good at identifying talent. If you can play in the league, you’ll rise to the top, and they’ll find you. There are countless examples of this: guys rising from FCS or lower divisions (Joe Flacco had a nice run), guys who barely played at a low level like the aforementioned Quentin Rollins, guys who transferred to bigger schools and didn’t play much but still got to the show like the recent Gage Larvadain.
Borderline guys just need to decide if they rather play every snap in front of sparse crowds on weeknights or compete for playing time in front of 60-100k in big time games. Most these guys believe they will win the starting job, so I totally get taking the chance to go to an Auburn or South Carolina or Oklahoma and competing. You don’t get to be a D1 player at any school without a huge competitive drive so most will want to try and play at the top level even if its not guaranteed they see a lot of snaps.
Miami just needs to be in the best position to offer, retain, and entice those who want to be here.
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Or now Emmanuel McNeil-Warren, safety for Toledo who’s projected to go in the first two rounds.
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Waterson leading Central Catholic 14-0 in the first on Spectrum. Bellisari just threw a TD pass.
I get the “ no data to support “ argument. I am not sure however how you would ever put such data together. A degree of common sense comes into play here.You are not going to get tested or get better sitting on the bench. A player needs playing time to show/improve his game. I find it difficult to support an argument that a player with NFL potential should leave Miami if he is a starter at Miami and can get some decent NIL money while staying at Miami unless the NIL money differential is substantial. Stats do speak . If you are good enough to start at P4 and get big money to transfer like Virgil ok go for it. It is a real role of the dice however and in many cases will be a wasted year if the player gets little or no PT. Larvadin could have stayed gotten some Miami NIL money, and put up big numbers with Brett at QB and then could have gotten drafted with some decent signing money. He wasted a year at SC. In any event I agree with a few posts here that each situation needs to be separately analyzed .
Dang!. Central Catholic is a beast of a program too.
17-0 midway into Q3. Bellisari just threw a pick in the end zone, third of the day. He has thrown a couple of very nice deep balls.
Now 23-0 with 3:07 left in Q3.
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30-0 with 6:02 left.
4 interceptions in a 30-0 win. Imagine the score if no interceptions
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I raised this very issue on here a week or so ago when discussing Finn. Potentially precedent setting case being pursued by Georgia. Granted a slightly different concept than Finn’s situation.
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Very interesting! Yeah, w regards to Finn, a likely pro-rated clawback judgement probably wouldn’t be worth the legal fees. Might feel good, though!
From the article:
“The Bulldogs paid Wilson a total of $30,000 from the disputed contract. Because of the way the deal was crafted, Georgia says Wilson owed it $390,000 in a lump sum within 30 days of his decision to leave the team. Drummond declined to comment when asked why the damages being sought are much higher than the amount Wilson was paid.”
I get that it’s a liquidated damages clause, but I have an extremely hard time believing a program that can just sign whatever 5-star DL is the next up actually suffers any meaningful loss if a player bails after only getting $30K on his contract.
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Maybe they figure the free tuition, clothes, room and board, medial care, etc, etc, etc
One was a deflection in the end zone.
Miami has an in-house legal department.
Yes I know Amy, Miami’s VP and General Counsel.
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It’s called creative lawyering!!
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Yep. Ive spoken to her about trademark license infringement ads I’ve seen online..