Personally, I like it when the water comes on when I turn it on, the toilet flushes when it needs to be flushed, the electricity goes on and off when the switch is it and the wiring doesn’t cause fires
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Update: X is down 20% students for 25-26
Miami had 43K applicants (largest ever) and 4500 FY students in 25-26
UC is growing (51K students in 24-25)
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With that many applicants, why is our acceptance rate seemingly so high? It would seem we could be pretty selective w that many applications.
Yield rares are down from what many of us old timers are familiar with. Students today routinely apply to many more schools than what we did back in the day.
Also, the class of 2025 acceptance rate was 70.4%. I believe that is a return to rates that were common pre-covid. Please correct me if I mistaken
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And from what I’ve seen, you’ve gotten to do some pretty cool things with that degree, @Bash_Riprock?
Still use my degree, though in different ways now. My role is shifting and @DevilGrad’s sentiment hits home, although my writing is less refined.
Of note, I wouldn’t be surprised if Dayton struggles too. Their president took an article that was already published off the student newspaper website that talked about how many contracts the university didn’t renew for adjuncts next year.
Wow. UDayton’s is going for over $64K list price for tuition, room and board.
Miami in-state list is $34.5K
Back in the day when dinosaurs roamed the earth (aka the early 1990s), I paid $15K/year out the door for tuition, room & board … out of state with NO financial aid.
Before dinosaurs roamed the earth and were single cell little swimmers room board and tuition my freshman year. Book were probably about $140.
In the absence of light and darkness before the Big Bang, my senior year in 1975 cost a little more than $3,000. I was able to pay that with money earned the prior summer and my gig as an editor on the Miami Student. There’s no way a student can finance a college education that way anymore.
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My out-of-state tuition of about $4,500 (late 70s) was paid by my parents, for which I am eternally grateful.
Enrollment challenges are certainly not limited to private institutions. Look at the difference 5 years makes for the number of students at all MAC schools.
University. 2019 2025
Miami. 17,147. 16,500
Toledo. 16,194. 13,185
BGSU. 14,680. 13,871
Ohio. 23,323. 14,779
Kent. 23,178. 18,926
Akron. 16,871. 15,385
E. Mich. 16,997. 15,730
C. Mich. 17,845. 11,441
W. Mich. 17,936. 13,172
NIU. 13,454. 11,834
Ball U. 17,004. 16,160
Buffalo. 20,071. 20,006
UMASS. 23,388. 22,745
Miami is relatively healthy. Ohio, Kent and C. Michigan have tremendous challenges.
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I am shocked about Ohio U
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Not entirely sure how accurate the Ohio U number is … when we were looking at potential colleges (ended up picking Miami, btw) Ohio U showed an undergrad student body of 22.5K
From where are you sourcing this data? There are a few that don’t look right.
Everything I’ve seen over the past few years shows us flat year-over-year. OU and BUGS show increases. Toledo and Akron are for sure shrinking. CMU has really taken it on the chin.
Back to lurking.
The source was Phil Steele which I grant is an odd place to quote from but it had the data all in one place. I have looked at Steele’s enrollment figures for years and I never had reason to doubt it as it squared with Miami’s self released numbers for Oxford undergraduate students. In that regard this year is no exception.
I am now doubting the source for everyone else. Thank you for the links to Ohio and BG.
The headline figure OU gives of 29,625 includes their graduate students, five satelite campuses and online only enrollees. In the Fall of 2024 Ohio said they had 16,597 undergraduate students in Athens. That is a far cry from the 14,779 I stated. My apologies. I hate inaccurate or misleading data.
I don’t know that it’s necessarily inaccurate as it’s more apples vs. oranges. One can find Enrollment Number A which is undergrad/main campus only, Enrollment Number B which is undergrad + grad/main + branch, Enrollment Number C which is undergrad + grad/main only + online, etc. I think the challenge is when someone is trying to compare University #1 Enrollment Number A with University #2 Enrollment Number C. Just need to qualify which one you’re referring to.
Edit: And University #1 may have reported Enrollment Number A last year and Enrollment Number B this year because, yeah, marketing, which further complicates the ability to draw comparisons/conclusions.
Another Edit: With all that said, I think your overall point still stands though it may stand on more sand than you initially thought.
Back to lurking.
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This morning, I lost a good pair of boxers. We’d been through a lot of bad life choices together. The waist band basically disintegrated and I probably should have taken them out of rotation a long time ago but they had squirrels on them. Now, I could tell you their decline was because of poor quality or because of the washing machine cycle, but honestly, I think it’s because the waist band had been stretched beyond the limits of normal use. College admissions across the country play this same game. The numbers decline and they aren’t honest about why. Maybe they’re just tired institutions that have run their course like my squirrel boxers.
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If you’re wearing boxers intended for squirrels, that would explain why the waist was compromised.
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Bonk, candidly speaking, they looked like Fundees. The waist was that stretched out. What happened to cause that certainly wasn’t a Fundees scenario, but it would have been much appreciated. In 1,000 years, when the archaeologists find them in the landfill, their first thought will be “what a fat slob!”