Yeah with the coaching change it kinda reset who was actually coming out of who was committed
But I do agree- I’d much rather see this promise with the youngins than feeling like all our talent is graduating off.
Let’s just hope we don’t see them transfer 
Thanks for the clarification, MooreHawk!
I’m a tawdry film maker not an accountant. To me, men’s hoops makes money:
By ticket sales. (loads of home games)
By selling ad space.
By selling merch (do they get to keep that money?)
By donations from fans.
By playing buy games.
By getting revenue distribution from MAC or NCAA.
With the smallest roster of all the revenue sports it’s most likely to be profitable or closest to breaking even. Keep me honest though as maybe I’m missing something.
Finally, given the popularity of March Madness, it has the most potential to get students in the door.
The thing about basketball is that you need a very good Coach (makes ALL the difference and I believe we have one), and just a few really good (being great wouldn’t hurt) players, and you can forge a winning team. And you can turn things around fairly quickly (as compared to rebuilding a football or hockey program which requires many more players and takes far longer).
A couple of our regional rivals (Xavier and Dayton) went all in on hoops. Dayton dropped a level in football and XU dropped football altogether. Neither fund hockey to my knowledge.
All true. It’s very hard to be top 25 in the 3 biggies at the same time even for the big schools. And those that don’t have hockey can replace that 3rd sport with baseball and my point remains. I’ve seen them have 2 great and 1 good to below. Can’t recall a school that had top 25 in their big 3 but I’m sure it might have happened. Just rare. So going all in on 1-2 makes sense for many.
I feel like I have made this argument before but I dont think Miami going all in for basketball makes sense
Dayton and Xavier focusing on basketball I think made more sense for them. Both are in the middle of cities. Dayton has always been a great city for college basketball and they draw 13k non stop for A10 basketball
In reality is A10 basketball anything better than AAC football? I really dont think so
To be clear, I wasn’t advocating for deemphasizing football in favor of hoops…I was merely pointing out that basketball can be turned around quicker w the right moves. Perhaps I should not have added the comment on XU and Dayton.
I also wasn’t implicitly trying to say we should drop hockey in favor of basketball emphasis. We have built the Arena, and so far have considerable financial support from alums and past players. I would add that if Noreen cannot turn our program around, then perhaps we do need to do something different (Change D1 leagues perhaps, maybe even drop a level although that seems pretty drastic).
Lurker…the hockey guy weighing in on a basketball discussion in a hockey forum. Take my comments for what they’re worth.
There is a hard ceiling on Miami basketball success. It’s called the MAC and it will weigh us down no matter how much money we pump into the program. Until the MAC as a league gets an average KenPom rating below 150 (we’re currently in the 220s) no MAC team will ever be a destination for top talent. And there isn’t enough NIL money in the alumni base to overcome that, regardless of how much funding we get from Wally and Harper or how many luxury suites they put into the new Slantwalk® arena.
And I play hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey, hockey all the time!
Back to lurking
Yeah you are right…wrong forum, but it beats talking about this weekend’s hockey series.
Lurker,
Hi and good to see you here. A couple things:
We dumping that pile of stink called NIU and replacing them with UMass. League will be much stronger and it’s not out of the question a two bid league when the tourney expands.
Kam on paper is the highest ranked player we’ve ever had at Miami. He was a top 60 player in the country. We don’t have a recruiting problem.
A lot of the historical mid majors in the region are now beyond mid major. Butler, Creighton, to some degree X. Plenty of room for us to step up and fill that space.
There are 2 quality post season tournaments as well with the NCAA and NIT. That’s 100 spots for teams right there between the two. We can be a top 100 team in basketball. I wish hockey had more than one post season tourney.
If you go to page 63 of the document shared above it has their total expenses. Basketball has the third largest most of any sport at Miami only $200,000 behind hockey with half the number of athletes. This is not unique to Miami as across the NCAA the cost per player of men’s basketball is typically the highest. At Miami it’s about double that of football and hockey.
That said basketball probably has the most room to grow in terms of revenue. Even with how bad hockey has been ticket revenue for hockey is 4x as high and with a smaller arena capacity it limits the growth potential there. If my math math’s basketball would need to triple attendance (not unrealistic) and raise prices by 50% to equal what hockey generates now. However, that doesn’t put much of a dent in the break even number. It’s currently at about $1.8 million so generating another 400k in ticket revenue moves the needle but not that much.
That’s very helpful info, much appreciated!
The reinforcements:
https://x.com/ushl/status/1878895444119732646?s=46
That’s the third time in the past month and a half or so it’s been a Miami commit ¯_(ツ)_/¯