MIAMI V AKRON GAME NOTES AND THREAD!

Below 300 in rate, I’m not talking absolute numbers here.

And in case you thought those stats were correlated for some other reason (smaller sample size?), we are shooting well at 11th in the country by EFG%. But there’s only 4 teams in the top 100 by EFG% with a worse rebounding rate, and 10 teams with a rate in the 300s, so I don’t see it

My impressions from yesterday, positives…

  • Great crowd. Into the game and loud. Much better than what could be heard on the broadcast. Just a really fun game to be at.
  • Great effort from our team. It wasn’t always pretty - but we won without amazing shooting.
  • Byers has gotten so much better at going to the basket. He’s a very tough cover.
  • Elmer stepped up big when we needed him.
  • The win. Akron is a darn good team. Quick, athletic, long, physical. That’s a heck of a team. Great win for us.
  • Women’s team played hard and got a quality win. I enjoyed the double-header aspect.

To improve upon…

  • Frisbee dogs. I’m giving it a B-. Only one was a D1 frisbee dog. Some D3 dogs got D1 minutes yesterday.
  • The berating of the refs from Steele. His tech was deserved and probably should have gotten a second. The pointing, the cussing, the continuation of it for many minutes after. I have such respect for the culture and team he’s created here, but loathe his “I’m about to fight this ref” routine. It’s below him. Below the university. Below the game. I had no issue with how the game was called yesterday. Refs will never be perfect. The refs were fine. There’s a big difference between ‘working the officials’ and ‘demeaning the officials.’ He crosses that line too frequently. And it was two free points in a very close game.
  • Needed more than one entry line open. (Don’t affect me - I went to both games.) But long line to get in.)

All in all, a great day in Oxford. Let’s keep this train rolling!

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When Miami basketball fans bitch about long entry lines they’ve lost all sense of irony.

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There was a point in the first half where he was going nuts at one of the refs after already having gotten a T. Getting ejected in the first half of a game where the fouls were 9-3 in our favor would have been an all timer.

A long entry line at Miami is anything > 10 people!

Similar to a traffic jam in Oxford—-more than three cars at a stop light.

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I always wonder if his brother Groce ever says anything about this to him after the Miami v. Akron games. “Bro chill”.

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The T was not earned whatsoever. He simply was yelling the Akron player was using his elbow to clear space. I do agree he was more adamant AFTER getting it- that’s because he knew he wasn’t getting tossed at that point. Travis isn’t dumb and it definitely bought some calls later in the game.

MAC officials are bad plain and simple (like calling the Akron inbounder for stepping over)

The Akron infraction was the correct call?

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My only comment is that our offense looked stagnant at times compared to Akron’s. Keep the ball moving, too much standing and watching the guy with the ball at times. We don’t have the raw athletic ability to be winning isolation plays consistently. Remember you can always pass faster than the other team can run (as long as you aren’t passing it directly to them). Overall, awesome win, great effort, lot of fun to be a Miami fan right now.

He wasn’t ejected after the tech because he was 100% correct and the refs knew it. He was shouting because a player shooting the free throws from the technical wasn’t on the court when it occurred

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That would be a real pot/kettle situation because Groce can be mid major Dan Hurley at times…

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Agree completely. That’s why it’s a weakness able to be overcome. We have several stretch 4s and one true 5. What we lose we defending the paint we (so far anyway) more than make up for on the other end.

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To be clear, the “horrible MAC official” in this case played D1 basketball, officiates in the Big Ten, A-10, Horizon League, MAC, and is a multiple time NCAA Tournament official. (I don’t know the guy - just did 2 minutes of research.) The “these refs are awful” is a classic on HawkTalk. As if somehow we’ve been given awful, anti-Miami refs for the last 2, 5, 10, 15, years. Oh well - moving on.

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It was.

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My understanding is that it was the wrong call, because the inside of the white line is the boundary. So, if a player steps on any part of the white line, they are out of bounds, which means the Akron player needed to step fully over the white line to be in-bounds for a throw in violation.

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How nice is it that we’re now arguing about rebounding rates instead of “player X on our roster isn’t really a D1 quality player”?

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AI answer is confusing.

I think these are the relevant parts of the NCAA rulebook. In total, I think it’s pretty clear that stepping on the white line is fine since it’s not part of the playing court.

Additionally, teams can choose to skip the white lines and just have alternating colors to mark the playing court which some teams do. On those courts, the throw in violation on Akron wouldn’t have been called since there would be no line to step on.

RULE 1 Court and Equipment:

SECTION 2. THE PLAYING COURT—DIMENSIONS
Art. 1. The playing court is the area on the floor that lies within the geometrical lines formed by the inside edge of the boundary lines
Art. 2. The playing court shall be a rectangular surface free from obstructions with sidelines of 94 feet in length and end lines of 50 feet in length measured from the inside edges of these lines

SECTION 3. BOUNDARY LINES, RESTRAINING LINES AND OTHER MARKINGS
Art. 1. The court shall be marked with boundary lines (sidelines and end lines), restraining lines and other mandatory lines and markings as shown on the Court Diagram. There shall be at least 3 feet (and preferably 10 feet) of unobstructed space outside the sidelines. All lines must be clearly discernible and distinguishable

Art. 2. Instead of the 2-inch boundaries listed on the Court Diagram, it is legal to use contrasting-colored floor areas by painting the out-of-bounds area, the center circle, and the free-throw lanes and lines so that the mathematical line between the two colors is the boundary. Such a contrasting-colored out-of-
bounds belt should be at least 8 inches wide.

RULE 9

Violations and Penalties

SECTION 4. THROW-IN

Art. 1. It is a throw-in violation when a thrower-in:

f. Touches the playing court before the throw-in is released or touches the ball in the playing court before it has touched another player

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I wouldn’t just contemplate it, I’d do it. It’s a blast.