# Miami at St.Cloud State this weekend.11/3,11/4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Ice Hockey\ **Created:** [November 2, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052 "2023-11-02T22:26:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![cwRedhawks](https://miamihawktalk.fans/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@cwRedhawks](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/cwRedhawks)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 12:12am UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/22 "2023-11-05T00:12:16Z")
Commentary guy might need to change his pants after that SCSU goal. They don’t even try to hid the bias lol ---
**Author:** ![Bonk](https://miamihawktalk.fans/user_avatar/miamihawktalk.fans/bonk/32/130_2.png) [@Bonk](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/Bonk)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/23 "2023-11-05T00:15:09Z")
It was a nice goal. 1-0 SUCS midway through the second period. ---
**Author:** ![mygrry](https://miamihawktalk.fans/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@mygrry](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/mygrry)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 12:16am UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/24 "2023-11-05T00:16:03Z")
Moulton having a tough night… ---
**Author:** ![Bonk](https://miamihawktalk.fans/user_avatar/miamihawktalk.fans/bonk/32/130_2.png) [@Bonk](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/Bonk)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 12:16am UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/25 "2023-11-05T00:16:43Z")
2-0 now. ---
**Author:** ![gbeckman](https://miamihawktalk.fans/user_avatar/miamihawktalk.fans/gbeckman/32/66_2.png) [@gbeckman](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/gbeckman)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/26 "2023-11-05T00:47:23Z")
I checked in on my way to dinner and it was scoreless, Next time I looked, down 3-0. Blech. ---
**Author:** ![NYCRedHawk](https://miamihawktalk.fans/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/76d3ee/32.png) [@NYCRedHawk](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/NYCRedHawk)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/27 "2023-11-05T01:05:39Z")
4-0 St. Cloud. Back to the the Miami I know 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Bonk](https://miamihawktalk.fans/user_avatar/miamihawktalk.fans/bonk/32/130_2.png) [@Bonk](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/Bonk)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 1:24am UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/28 "2023-11-05T01:24:56Z")
Final: SUCS 6 Miami 0 ---
**Author:** ![19goSkins](https://miamihawktalk.fans/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/9de0a6/32.png) [@19goSkins](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/19goSkins)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 2:28am UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/29 "2023-11-05T02:28:58Z")
Embarrassing. Back to league play! ---
**Author:** ![MiamiU1984](https://miamihawktalk.fans/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@MiamiU1984](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/MiamiU1984)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 3:56pm UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/30 "2023-11-05T15:56:00Z")
Team showed their true self over the weekend. Can NOT compete in their conference. ---
**Author:** ![Hawk99](https://miamihawktalk.fans/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hawk99](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/Hawk99)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/31 "2023-11-05T16:54:01Z")
It’s early, but the digging has begun. Weekends swept in conference: 1 Embarrassing blowout losses: 1 Upset victories: 0 Competitive Losses to top conference teams: No data yet ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyMac](https://miamihawktalk.fans/user_avatar/miamihawktalk.fans/johnnymac/32/52_2.png) [@JohnnyMac](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/JohnnyMac)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2023, 3:06pm UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/32 "2023-11-06T15:06:52Z")
Face-off winning percentage has absolutely no correlation to winning hockey games. ---
**Author:** ![Bonk](https://miamihawktalk.fans/user_avatar/miamihawktalk.fans/bonk/32/130_2.png) [@Bonk](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/Bonk)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 10:30am UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/33 "2023-11-07T10:30:11Z")
Hey JohnnyMac, I think your account was hacked. Some joker posted under your name that faceoff percentage is irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![1812grad](https://miamihawktalk.fans/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/74df32/32.png) [@1812grad](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/1812grad)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 11:48am UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/34 "2023-11-07T11:48:39Z")
Miami is 0-13-2 last 15 games at St.Cloud. “Never bet against a streak,you’ll only lose once” Miami needs an “A” this weekend at Goggin vs CC. ---
**Author:** ![2XHawk](https://miamihawktalk.fans/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/2/5e9695/32.png) [@2XHawk](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/2XHawk)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 12:44pm UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/35 "2023-11-07T12:44:35Z")
This article is from 2017 but indicates no correlation between faceoffs and both long term and short term game outcomes. [https://www.si.com/nhl/2017/03/03/illustrated-review-importance-nhl-faceoff](https://www.si.com/nhl/2017/03/03/illustrated-review-importance-nhl-faceoff) ---
**Author:** ![DICK](https://miamihawktalk.fans/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/c67d28/32.png) [@DICK](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/DICK)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/36 "2023-11-07T14:43:09Z")
I learned something about hockey today. Intuitively you would think that gaining possession more than the other team would be important in determining who wins. From reading this, it is probably such a small edge that it really is not important. ---
**Author:** ![Lurker](https://miamihawktalk.fans/user_avatar/miamihawktalk.fans/lurker/32/73_2.png) [@Lurker](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/Lurker)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/37 "2023-11-07T15:01:48Z")
No correlation between face offs and short term game outcomes? Mmmkaaaayyyy. I bet Rand Pecknold and Bob Motzko have some thoughts they’d like to share on the topic. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/DgNabkBeRJs/maxresdefault.jpg "Quick OT goal gives Quinnipiac 2023 NCAA men's hockey title") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgNabkBeRJs) Face off wins affect a game in more of a situational manner which is my takeaway. Losing a face off on a PP can take 20-30 sec off the man advantage. That has more of a potential impact on an outcome than losing a NZ faceoff resulting from an offsides. Does any of this face off stuff change an outcome compared to CORSI? Definitely not. Doesn’t mean it isn’t important or a stat that should be ignored. Back to lurking. ---
**Author:** ![1812grad](https://miamihawktalk.fans/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/74df32/32.png) [@1812grad](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/1812grad)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/38 "2023-11-07T16:16:45Z")
Please see: [https://arxiv.org/pdf/1902.02397.pdf](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1902.02397.pdf) Ice hockey face off analytics.Really drills down. A key is a player who wins face offs in the O Zone, and puck goes into “ danger zone” from where scoring % is high. ---
**Author:** ![1812grad](https://miamihawktalk.fans/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/74df32/32.png) [@1812grad](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/1812grad)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/39 "2023-12-06T23:20:04Z")
Lurker, Check out Coach Bergeron’s pre weekend video on the Miami Athletics web site. He basically says what your point was,that winning face offs extend your power play offensive time., Good call. ---
**Author:** ![Lurker](https://miamihawktalk.fans/user_avatar/miamihawktalk.fans/lurker/32/73_2.png) [@Lurker](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/Lurker)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:17am UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/40 "2023-12-07T00:17:55Z")
If I give you my wife’s email, would you mind pointing this out to her? I could use a win in any category at home today. Back to lurking. Edit: While I’m at it, “We pay no attention to face offs won/lost as it doesn’t impact the outcome of the game.” said no coach ever. Now, back to lurking. ---
**Author:** ![1812grad](https://miamihawktalk.fans/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/74df32/32.png) [@1812grad](https://miamihawktalk.fans/u/1812grad)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:42pm UTC](https://miamihawktalk.fans/t/miami-at-st-cloud-state-this-weekend-11-3-11-4/3052/41 "2023-12-07T12:42:46Z")
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