That’s correct. This was his final year on the committee.
According to Phil Steele we did exactly as expected. Based on his preseason ratings and after factoring in home field he had us favored in 7 games. We won 7 games.
The only games that ended differently than his projections were Toledo(we lost) and Buffalo(we won).
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Skimmed through a few posts on this thread, lots of Debbie downers. We are 2 years removed from a 10 win season and a MAC championship, with access to high school talent we haven’t had in the past because larger schools are mainly taking transfers. We graduated 25+ seniors last year, had maybe 5 people playing who had taken a snap in a championship game. Every season has ups and downs but considering everything that transpired this season we will absolutely take 7-8 wins and more practices to develop our guys before a great bowl game. First program in years to reach the MACCG 3 years in a row. Trust the process and the OOC results will come
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You had me until your last sentence.
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The days of developing a roster are gone. The truth is if we don’t have players other teams want, you are recruiting the wrong players to begin with. That’s all.
Yeah it’s been 10 years and little has changed w CM’s approach to P4 OOC games.
Since 2017, only one MAC team has more Big Ten wins than Miami (EMU somehow has 3).
Since 2017, only two MAC teams have move Big XII wins than Miami (OU and CMU).
Since 2017, only one MAC team has move SEC wins than Miami (only Toledo has won a game)
Since 2017, 4 MAC teams have more ACC wins than Miami (our game against the ‘Canes is our only attempt though)
There really isn’t evidence that Chuck is any worse against P4 conferences than the rest of the MAC. The truth is the MAC almost never beats P4 teams anymore. I don’t think the trend of NIL and money is going to reverse that.
In the 2020s, the MAC is 2-45 against the B10 (we are one of the two). The MAC is 3-7 against the Big XII (we are one of the 3). The MAC is 1-28 vs the SEC.
The stats actually say Chuck is the best coach in the MAC against the B10/SEC/Big XII in the 6 years this decade as absurd as that sounds. He has 2 of the 6 wins. OU has 2. BG has 1. Toledo has 1.
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These states pretty well validate that the MAC is not in the same tier of football in the first quarter of the 21st Century as it was from 1975 - 2000.
The MAC was actually most competitive with the Big Ten in the 2010s. Here’s by decade. You can see the sport is in a totally different place in the 2020s than it was 90s, 00s, and 10s.
2020s: 2-45 (4.3%)
2010s: 21-91 (18.8%)
2000s: 17-110 (13.4%)
1990s: 6-46 (11.5%)
1980s: 2-27 (6.9%)
1970s: 5-14 (27.5%)
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Also good to keep in mind that almost ALL of these games are away. I haven’t looked up the most recent stats but IIRC even within the B10 conference games the visiting teams only average winning about 30% of the time.
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Would be interested in power team records as that makes a huge difference, Wisconsin/Rutgers is much different than Texas Tech/Oklahoma (like Kent this year). The only losing P5 teams Chuck played from 2014-21 were 2014 Michigan and 2016 Mississippi State; since 2022 we’ve had 2022 Northwestern, 2023 UC, 2024 Northwestern/UC, and 2025 Wisconsin/Rutgers.
Even without them I will take competing for conference championships any day of the week lol. There are a lot of programs who are good or average who have a few OOC good wins and still can’t make their title game
Not everyone leaves for the portal. The recipe is retain a nucleus of great players and build around them as needed through the portal. 2023 was a great example. Had great OL, brought in John young to give the extra boost, had BG and brought in players like Gage to make a difference. The effects of new era college football are felt, but definitely over exaggerated
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You may keep “the core”, but you are losing the top players. Ask a coach of any team, in any sport, if he likes losing his best players every year.
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=>But, but, but…
=>There is a large contingent of FC Cincy fans who want to fire Pat Noonan and Chris Albright.
Chuck Martin’s record vs Group of 6 opponents:
2014: 0-2 (Marshall & UC)
2015: 0-2 (UC & Western Kentucky)
2016: 0-2 (UC & Western Kentucky)
2017: 0-2 (Marshall & UC)
2018: 0-3 (Marshall, UC & Army)
2019: 0-2 (UC & Louisiana)
2020: 0-0
2021: 1-2 (L’s vs UC & Army, Win vs North Texas)
2022: 0-2 (UC & UAB)
2023: 1-1 (L vs App State, Win vs UMASS)
2024: 2-0 (UMASS & Colorado State)
2025: 0-1 (UNLV) with 1 game upcoming
Total Record: 4-19 (.174 winning percentage)
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Does the above meet expectations?
Why yes, yes it does.
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=>Now throw out UC games and those in first 3 seasons during rebuild and add MAC games. 
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