Then maybe I would extend the class to student sat ALL universities where student fees are used to subsidize athletics. Just like OBamnon did with NIL and universities.
Did the world fast forward to April 1st overnight?
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Chuck is correct. For instance, if I want to bring a medical malpractice case against the University of Missouri for care at MU Health, I cannot, due to sovereign immunity statutes in Missouri. However, I can individually bring suit against the doctors involved in the care.
Driving to the office at 6am this morning I was listening to Dustin and Danny Kannell on College Sports Radio, Sirius, and they devoted a significant amount of time discussing this CBS Sports piece and Miami University, not just football but other sports as well. And they are correct, Miamiās 8-10 million is about 25% of what the P4 teams are spending on rosters, but it is not a small drop in the bucket either. And it shows committment.
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Regardless, no one is suing and bringing down the whole concept of student fees. You pay student fees that support all sorts of things you donāt support or use. Its part of the deal of a university.
The real argument is going to be over the future of fees in a world where we are raising 10m+ a year in donations to support NIL. If football really is planning to spend 8-10m a year, and basketball is going to spend a not insignificant amount Iād hope if thats the case too, I can definitely see an eyebrow raise or two on why students are funding 20m of it as well.
Hell, maybe we get to a point where our AD finds enough money where that 20m can start dropping if all this money is really there for Miami Athletics. You donāt make this big of bet on Miami sports if you donāt think future revenue potential is there. The arena proposal to trustees said they thought they could bring in 2m-3m in ticket revenue (which I thought was ridiculous with current ticket rev being in low six figures). Guess weāll wait and see.
I actually didnāt think the $2-$3M number was too outrageous. The ability of premium sports spaces to generate revenue for teams is very underrated. There will almost certainly be several different levels of premium spaces that will do most of the heavy lifting. FC Cincinnati is already working on increasing its MLS high 5,500 premium tickets that sell out every year. I fully expect the next major project to be football premium spaces.
Totally agree. I hope the new arena has 1,000 premium seats with PSL/minimum giving levels. Same for Yager, need to add suites and club seating. Now would also be a good time to hire some new blood, particularly for premium seats, in the game day operations area. Miami has always been way behind in the overall fan experience area, because it always seemed like the people who were in charge had only been to Miami games. If weāre going to have premium seats, with premium prices, the experience shouldnāt be cookies, and a veggie tray, or a shitty Miami food service buffet.
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Interesting tidbits from the Decker radio interview on 700WLW this morning:
He seems to confirm the 8m figure, saying something to the effect of āits amazing to go from 80k to 8mā.
He says he spoke with Crawford last night and year to date we have 300 more confirmed accepted admissions from out of state compared to last year. And applications are āat like a 10x right nowā (this is obviously a bit of an exaggeration).
Decker said Miami offered to match Texas Techās offer to Trick and it would have been the highest NIL deal in MAC history if he accepted, but Trick opted for TTU.
We are shooting for 70-100m in private money for the arena (Sayler said similar at the BoT meeting).
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It is definitely not 25% of p4 teams. There is MAYBE 6 teams with a 40 million dollar roster. I am sure the average p4 price is around 27 mil.
I thought this was being capped at 20.5 millionā¦
The amount a school can directly pay players by sharing revenue is capped.
All the big programs are interested in the āover the capā amount, which is money players earn from outside sponsors. In theory, all those outside deals need to be approved by the CSC Clearinghouse and you canāt promise the money during recruitment, but the enforceability and strength of that has not been demonstrated yet.
For example, the main reason Kiffen left Ole Miss for LSU was the guaranteed extra āover the capā dollars LSU was promising.
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Iām not a lawyer - so I appreciate the expertise on my idea about whether the non-athlete class could file a suit.
Another interesting part of the article mentioned the ACCās reduced exit fee in the next couple of years. Iām interested in the threadās view on Miami threading the needle to the ACC.
The ACC is a FB/BB conference. If some of the predictions come true: that Clemson, Miami of Florida, and FSU leave - then you wonder about SMU, Stanford and Cal. Whether the latter leave, the D1 FB/MBB options are interesting. The ACC could semi-drop into a kind of non-Power FB status. Their species would be midway between Power FB and Power MBB. It would have elements of an A10/BigEast design on the MBB side (although a full step higher quality, with the Carolina schools) but it would have a FB element, which the A/10 and Big East do not. Enter, UCONN and another other D1 program matching the academic reputation of Duke, UVA, etc - as part of an ACC reconstitution. I just found that section of the article fascinating, and - however slight, the best pathway I have ever heard for Miami to level up in conference affiliation.
Very on topic tweet I just saw. 40 is the new 20 according to one SEC coach
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The regular decision application deadline was February 1st. I have always been skeptical of athletics success as a material driver of application volume,* and Iām doubly skeptical of any effect claimed for this admissions cycle since most applicants would have filed either at the beginning of the season or at the latest midway through the MAC schedule.
- Miami received a then-record number of applicants in the admissions cycle where the football team went 0-12 during the fall. Any ānegative Flutie effectā was completely dwarfed by that being the year the university joined the Common Application. We sports junkies like to overinterpret correlation as causation when good things are happening on the field and in the admissions office at the same time. But most students are picking their application lists for other reasons.
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I tend to agree and as youāve pointed out in the past, the research tends to align with that. Sayler and Decker now have both unprompted brought up in interviews our admissions office being thrilled with whatās going on, so Iād believe they are seeing some response of some kind, but I donāt think many Miami applicants and future students are choosing Miami because of athletics.
But I think the real news out of this interview was the mention that we offered to match what Texas Tech was paying for Trick. Thatās a crazy step compared to where we were just a bit ago with the anecdote about Virgil going to Tech and Martin being too embarrassed to even bring up our 40,000 offer to him. Iām not sure there are any other MAC programs that would be able to match a TTU offer (we know they are throwing around serious oil cash).
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Anecdotally, it sounds like early āyieldā (acceptance of admissions offers) is ahead of last year, and they believe national attention on Miami may drive some of that. In the long run, higher yield will work backwards into being able to extend fewer admissions offers to yield the same size entering class ā i.e., increase selectivity. If that were a durable effect, it would be beneficial.
However, in the current cycle, Miami extends offers on a rolling basis. Unless they throttle back on acceptances for those February 1st applicants who are still under review, they run the risk of being overenrolled compared to target this fall. Ending up overenrolled by even a couple of hundred students sets off a scramble to ensure first-year housing and enough sections of Miami Plan core courses in English and math. Michigan overshot by 400 students one of the years when my kids were in the process and had to figure out where to house everyone while hiring additional instructors over the summer.
Both are problems but I would rather be over enrolled than under enrolled
Flutie Effects are very debatable. The most generous studies that Iāve seen come to the conclusion that there are some temporary benefits. Applicant pool quantity, but not quality, does go up. And donations to the athletic department, but not the university overall, do rise. All of the press for the undefeated season is probably having a small effect, but thatās not going to be a real Flutie Effect if the team gets bounced out of the tournament in the first round. An Elite 8 run (or a CFP appearance in football) might do it though. And then again, itās temporary, and not the quality driver some want to believe. And thatās it. Hockey is a non-factor. Did a decade as a national title contender in hockey provide any tangible academic benefits.
Gonzaga has been a national title contender for well over a decade, yet nobody is comparing them to Georgetown or Notre Dame. Alabama, LSU and Oklahoma have been Flutie Effecting for generations, yet Minnesota, Illinois, Washington, Purdue and multiple UC campuses that donāt even play FBS football are considered infinitely better universities. Schools move forward academically because they invest directly in academics.
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I think Butler University did a pretty good job on capitalizing on the Flutie effect, as did Creighton.